On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[email protected]> wrote: > > -1 > > Middle of October 2010, I used much time trying to figure out what > LibreOffice (LO) was about. I found the site at the time almost useless in > this regard. What I hoped to find was an explanation as to how the products > differ in a way that matters to a user. The site was sufficiently vague that > I finally sent a personal email to Thorsten Behrens. I formulated my > opinions and limited understanding based on clarifications from Thorsten (to > whom I am thankful for taking the time). > > I will say that I lack the time to pursue an OOo vs LibreOffice debate. At > least for now, I will state that I believe that the products are > sufficiently similar that documentation can be done jointly at this > particular point in time. Now, for a few concerns:
Maybe I can shed some light on these matters: > > Concern 1: > I interpret a portion of this message to say that the LibreOffice folks > desire no association with the OOo name. I start wondering if LibreOffice > will port future OOo changes and if they will forge a different path > yielding a different product (or if they will stay as a rebranded OOo with > added value). Depending on the intent, in the near future it may not be > possible to have a common set of documentation. LibreOffice right now remains very similar, but there are plans to cut off from the OOo development completely and become a separate products. There is a list already of differences between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org > > Concern 2: > If we change the name to use ODF, then (1) the name no longer contains any > association to the products about which the documentation is written, (2) > other products use ODF, and (3) the documentation site is not about ODF. I share these concerns as well. At the same time, I think we could expand our options to third parties. > > --------------------------------- > > I read the message below to say "we will host you if (and only if) you drop > name association with OOo". I am against changing the name before we > understand what OOoDev intends to do. Will OOoDev jump on the LibreOffice > bandwagon and change their name accordingly (LoDev??)? If OOoDev intends to > become ODFDev then that would be a more compelling reason to use the ODF > name > OOoDev will change it's name eventually, since they are really where all the TDF is being handled. There is no TDF legally and all the paperwork is being done from OOoDev. Since changing a legal name takes longer than just a domain, they will have to stick to OOoDev, until their paperwork for a Foundation can be establish. This usually takes a long time. I am not happy on having political conditions being imposed by other groups. Noting against TDF but is just doesn't seem very neutral. My option is just to ask for help from others. I could offer serverspace from people that has gave us multiple VPS to host some sites. However we are still starting up and I can't guarantee how stable these service will be once we have a heavy site like OOoAuthors in place. I would however suggest to have a good description of the technical requirements OOoAuhtors have, and put them on a call for help document in OOoAuthors and see which emails come in Aid. Just seems the most logical and easier task to have. > > > > On 12/17/2010 04:02 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: >> >> As many of you know, we have had some problems with website downtime and >> slow connections. Most of you don't know that Andreas, our system >> administrator, has been having difficulty upgrading the site to Plone 4, >> due to lack of server space and the slow, unreliable connection. Because >> of these problems, we have been looking for alternative places to host >> the site. Our choices are limited because most commercial hosts do not >> accept Plone sites because of the resources they use. >> >> Andreas suggested the German association OOoDeV might host the site. >> OOoDeV has now formally offered to host our website, but only if our >> domain& site names do not include OOo or OpenOffice. (OOoDeV hosts The >> Document Foundation/LibreOffice. I assume they are going to change their >> name, too.) >> >> (Related info: Some weeks ago, we invited the LibreOffice docs team to >> use our website. They have not accepted this offer (in part because of >> the site name), but the possibility exists for them or other related >> documentation groups to do so. A minor name change would make this >> arrangement more attractive.) >> >> I propose to change the domain and site names of OOoAuthors to the more >> generic ODFAuthors, where ODF = OpenDocument Format. I have already >> registered the domain name to prevent anyone else from grabbing it. >> >> I also propose to accept the offer from OOoDeV to host the site. This >> will allow Andreas and others to administer it more efficiently. >> >> Please respond to this note with +1 or discussion about the proposals. >> Thank you. >> >> --Jean >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> > > -- > Andrew Pitonyak > My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt > Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español http://es.openoffice.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
