Stefano,

APACHE AVALON PMC VOTING PROCEDURES - PROPOSAL


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The PMC Chair may disallow
a vote at his/her discretion, providing that justification is
provided.


-1 (vote not veto).

Paul, no need to explicitly indicating this anymore. I think we got the point that we need the ability to say 'I don't like this'.
Forgive me for feeling nervous.

Note, however, that I personally tend to *not* consider a -1 unless a reason is specified.

so, I much rather see you making an effort to tell me what you didn't like about that, instead of saying 'this is not a veto', which doesn't really help me understanding your reasoning behind this (I can guess, but that's might be further misunderstanding and friction created right there).

I'm sure you understand my point.
For the record I do not think the PMC Chair should be allowed to act in such an editorial fashion. I understand goverance models, and think a chair should be one of coordinator for this type of club/society. Dissallowing a vote from someone on the PMC is crap democracy. With or without justification. The benign dictator model (that backs our meritocracy/democracy design) sits a level higher than PMC Chair. To be honest though, for the item voted on, I'd have thought that was obvious. My problem is that I do not work in a job that affords me the opportunity to write to the Avalon mail list all day. My Agile leanings tell me to be brief where I can.

- Paul



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