Eran, Clearly you did not read my previous emails. *PLEASE* read them and then we can continue.
For example, I said "1. The proposal was to split Axis2+Anything that Axis2 Uses+Anything that is built on Axis2 into a separate TLP." Also, i said this before, but repeat it again, The current status quo sucks. What we have is not working. - Really bad web sites - Really bad status of JIRA issues - Really bad track record of making releases periodically - There are many disjoint islands - The set of projects mentioned above is totally disjoint from other projects in WS PMC. What we have is broken, We are not the only ones in this situation, this has happened before at Apache with XML and Jakarta PMC's. Please go and look at the history and how the projects are faring now after becoming logical/smaller footprint PMCs. Please go ask them or ask the board@ or ask members if you don't believe, let's learn from their experiences. *IF* people who are on the current projects that are not in the " Axis2+Anything that Axis2 Uses+Anything that is built on Axis2" list want to tell us something, they should chime in and tell us what they think and we'll take a vote. Right now it's just a few of us who are just repeating the same things over and over again without even reading what the other person is saying. thanks, dims On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Eran Chinthaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Chinthaka, >> >> What are the problems that will be created? Please enumerate them. How >> is it being handled / smoothed over now and what would change >> specifically to make the cooperation not happen. > > Problems : > > 1. Another member will have to waste time on doing PMC work > 2. We will lose the tight dependency between Axis2 and related projects like > Axiom, Neethi, Sandesha, etc., > > There are numerous things like this that will happen. > >> >> If you can point your finger to specific scenarios. We can see if we >> can come up with specific solutions. (Say common svn area where both >> committers can have access). > > Let me back up. What is broken in the current layout that mandates us to go > for different TLPs? > > >> >> Also, Don't mind me, i repeat my mantra for the n-th time again. Those >> who are actively working on a day to day basis should be taking the >> decisions. What we are doing is not working and i propose we try >> something new to see if it will work. > > My point is exactly this. Why do we waste time on going to fix something > which is not broken? Let's get back to work ;) > -- Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]