I agree Rick. It could have been that. It also could be that the "story" has
gotten skewed so-to-speak in the telling. 
 
So far, I haven't found her birth record. I will eventually though, I hope.
Right now my focus is on my ancestors from Sao Miguel. She was from Faial.
Hopefully, by the time I switch focus, Faial will have more records on line.
 
Jacki
Pittsburg, California, USA
Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza
Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel
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That seems kind of strange. I would suspect that the priest knew who the
parents of your 3d great grandparents were and it was more of a matter of a
close relation ship and they could not get a dispensation. 

 

If you could find her birth record it would be interesting. 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores  

for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha 

 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Jacki G.
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:25 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records

 

I have never actually seen a record like that but it doesn't surprise me
that they would identify if it that way. My 3rd great grandmother according
to family history was never allowed to actually marry my 3rd great
grandfather because she was the result of a rape. Her mother ended up in the
Azores due to a shipwreck and she was raped by one of the sailors.  The
catholic church labeled her (the baby) as "unclean" and would not allow the
marriage. So they just lived together for 60 years and had 9 children. 

 

I've wondered how they would label her birth. 

 

 

Jacki

Pittsburg, California, USA

Researching: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pacheco, Machado, Pereira, Azevedo,
Furtado, Rapoza

Islands: Faial & Sao Miguel

 

 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9.35 AM
To: azores group
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] odd records

Greetings,
 
    I've been reading all of the baptisms for Topo for 1860.......I've seen
2 unusual records that I've never seen before and wonder if anyone else has
seen similar records. One of them says the birth is to a solteria and in
parentheses it says (vulgar assault), the other says the woman was married
but the child was due to adultery. I had often wondered if some of those
"roda" babies were due to assault by pirates but the records never indicated
it so since this one did I guess they do put it on the records. Has anyone
ever seen other records in Sao Jorge such as these?
 
Regards,
Nancy Jean

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