On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
------------------------------ *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth > On 26/06/07, Andrew Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You're kidding, right? > > > > > > The service on Virgin isn't the iplayer, it's implemented via Virgin's > > existing service that already provides BBC repeats that's been running for a > > couple of years now. The same document approved the service but it is NOT > > the iPlayer. > > > > > > The PC TV download version part of it, is just one aspect of iPlayer - > > it is not the entirity of it by any means. The intentions of iPlayer being > > a cross-platform product have been there for a long time - even looking at > > how a service could be made available on Freeview. > > > > > Not on the product I betatested... You have conflated other products > into the iPlayer. > > I haven't done anything of the sort. The BBC has a plan for a range of > products which are the iPlayer. The iPlayer you are thinking of is just one > part of that plan. > > It is true that the PC download aspect is the one that has caught the > headlines. However even the PC version of iPlayer is more than just > downloads - it involves streaming and podcasts too. > Tell you what, you go and actually read the BBC and Ofcom documents about the service so you know what you are talking about and then repost, eh? Sorry Brian but I don't think I'll bother. I won't bother because I've read many of those documents because I've been watching iplayer as an outsider with great interest - partly because iPlayer on Cable is being built in the very team I work in! It's one of many reasons why I've taken an interest in iPlayer (another is that I'm a Linux user at home and have been keeping my eye very closely on that ball) iPlayer is exactly what I said is it. It's a range of products which covers what is mentioned in this document, and its associated documents. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/press_releases/30_04_2007.html You will notice that this covers: - Seven day catch-up television over the internet
This is the "iPlayer" as I used and tested last year
- Seven-day catch-up television over cable
This is the existing Telewest-desiged cable TV STREAMING repeats service that already exists and is in use.
- Simulcast television over the internet
Again, not the iPlayer, as you can find for yourself by clicking on this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_6610000/newsid_6615400?redirect=6615433.stm&news=1&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1
- Non-digital rights management audio downloads over the internet (aka podcasting)
podcasting isn't the iPlayer either. Its true that the iPlayer term is not hugely used in there - it is referred
to as the BBC's on demand proposals. It's also true that one of the consultation documents refers to the fact that the BBC could launch a version of the iPlayer using existing services (e.g. the AV console on BBC News, the Radio Player etc) without requiring a Public Value Test. But hey, tell you what... If you still don't believe me, I suggest you wait until launch and see who turns out to be right! ;)
Well, as the bottom three services HAVE already launched, I don't dig your odds. At the very least, when people moan about the iPlayer it is the "Seven day catch-up television over the internet" that people object to, given the very real lack of DRM on the other three... -- Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
