If you want BBC images to use on other websites (from Wikipedia onwards) just visit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediabank/ Register, download and use to your hearts desires. On 23/07/07, Kim Plowright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > this request is not limited to news feeds, so where are the BBC feeds > > for images that they do have copyright for? > > Which feeds in particular, with images? > You'll find that a lot of images used on the site are not BBC > copyright, and therefore the BBC doesn't have the rights to > redistribute them; hence the not being in RSS feeds. This isn't > exclusive to news, which has deals with AP etc, it applies to any area > of the site - movies is one example that springs to mind. > > Now, my understanding is that the BBC generally doesn't pursue minor > infringement of BBC copyright (such as occasional reuse of BBC owned > images on fan websites, for instance), as it has better things to be > doing with its time. But that doesn't necessarily mean that the owners > of the images that the BBC has licensed will feel the same way. > Remember the weather feeds? It's those underlying rights that will > cause problems. > > > I've no idea why you appear so aggressive. > > Because I am/was exceptionally tired and very hungover. > > >No one is suggesting that > > the images are not copyright. > > Quotes: > >>the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a "rights" > issue. > >>in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. > > No, but you suggest that because they're small/of poor quality there > won't be a rights issue with using them, which is a nonsense. > > Bearing in mind I am not a lawyer: > > 'Fair Use' is only a legal concept in US law. iirc; they're > 'Exceptions' in UK law, sometimes referred to in the copyright act as > Fair Dealing, when talking about reviewing or reporting current > affairs. > > Here's the law in question: > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm > > Excerpt from > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_4.htm > - - > Criticism, review and news reporting. > 30.—(1) Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or > review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does > not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied > by a sufficient acknowledgement. > (2) Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the > purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in > the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied > by a sufficient acknowledgement. > (3) No acknowledgement is required in connection with the > reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film, > broadcast or cable programme. > - - > > So > - you can reuse stuff with acknowledgement - sufficient is later > defined as 'title of work plus name of author' > - 30(2) appears to specifically rule out photographs from being exempt > for Criticism, review or news reporting. > - There may be arguments to be made around 'reporting of current > events' - but RSS may not fall under the means listed in 30(3) - it > would reference 'electronic means' if so. > - To successfully argue for exception under that clause 30(3), you'd > need to get a good working legal definition of 'reporting of current > events'. > > >evidently Yahoo is ahead on this issue as it already includes links > >to images in at least one news feed. > >Clearly in this case it seems unlikely they could claim that they did > >not intend the links to be used... > > There will be a sound reason that they provide links to images, not > actual images; consider the difference between the image appearing on > a page republishing the feed, and a link to the image in its original > context appearing on the page republishing the feed. > > - > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please > visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. > Unofficial > list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ > -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
