don't know if this has already been discussed here, but:
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/site/Home

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Alia Sheikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I never said anything about being unhappy with open standards, please do
> not implicitly misquote me like that:)
>
> What I said was that as far as possible things should be open but that
> that should not be the only value judgement that is made.  I also said
> positive and fluffy things about how nice it would be if everyone could
> access everything and that that was ideally how things should be.  I
> don't think the BBC *have* said
>
> "we believe Adobe's software is what everyone should use so we only
> permit their users access to our content".
>
> and I don't think that is what I am defending.  I am defending the right
> to investigate whether that particular bit of software is useful.  As I
> would (and have in the past) for open source software.
>
> I think that it woud have been good to have had a discussion on what Air
> can and can't do.  It would have been fantastic to have had a discussion
> about open source alternatives that can do the same job or a better
> job.  It would have been useful to talk about things that aren't the
> same but a bit like it or find out about some open source projects that
> haven't produced anything useful so far but that might be good to keep
> an eye out for.  It would have been interesting to know whether, if a
> piece of content was made available via Air or via something more open,
> what people's opinions would be about who would use which and why.  It
> would be interesting to know what people like the osflash.org guys think
> of all this (I don't know if any of you are on this list?).
>
> This is not a forum that exists simply for the purpose of telling the
> BBC that it is Wrong.
>
> It would have been good to talk.
>
> Alia
>
>
> Andy wrote:
> > On 26/02/2008, Alia Sheikh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Now this is a bit hairy - would you be happier if the BBC required that
> >>  the public could use only non-proprietary software to access any of
> its
> >>  work?
> >>
> >
> > I doubt that it what Dave is saying.
> > It should make it's content available via a standard way (see:
> > http://www.ietf.org , http://www.w3c.org , http://www.iso.org ).
> > That way it can be viewed in both proprietary and Open Source
> > software. See everyone's happy.
> >
> > And if you are unhappy using Open Standards then you can't use HTTP,
> > or TCP/IP for that matter so how are you going to access the BBC
> > website in the first place?
> >
> >
> >>  It feels uncomfortably like you're making a moral judgement about
> >>  the nature of 'good' and 'bad' software and asking the BBC to enforce
> >>  this.
> >>
> >
> > No one is asking the BBC to enforce ANYTHING. The entire opposite, we
> > are asking the BBC to allow *any* software to be used.
> >
> >
> >>  I wouldn't be
> >>  happy deciding what people should care about and enforcing it.
> >>
> >
> > That's what the BBC is doing and you have been defending. It is saying
> > "we believe Adobe's software is what everyone should use so we only
> > permit their users access to our content".
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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