I was rather thinking of a singer being accompanied by a single lute, in which perhaps the choice of lute might be secondary and determined by the best range, and tonal agreement with the singer. In the case of a singer adapting to an orchestra, I imagine you would be right.
Anthony ----- Mail original ----- De : Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> À : William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>; "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> Cc : Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 12h58 Objet : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 Dear Anthony, Unless outside their range, won't singers simply transpose to fit with the key/pitch of the accompaniment rather than the band having to change instruments? regards Martyn --- On Tue, 29/11/11, Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 To: "William Samson" <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk>, "baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Tuesday, 29 November, 2011, 11:41 For accompanying singers, also, the answer, unfortunately, is to have a number of different sized lutes. Anthony ----- Mail original ----- De : William Samson <[1]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> A : Anthony Hind <[2]agno3ph...@yahoo.com>; sterling price <[3]spiffys84...@yahoo.com> Cc : "[4]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[5]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Envoye le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 10h27 Objet : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 As far as I can see the only show-stopper for a lute tuned to 392Hz is ensemble work, when the other musicians are tuned to a higher pitch standard - usually 415Hz. That's where a 66cm baroque lute would be useful. Having said that, not many lutes that small have survived. Of course, the old guys (unlike me) might have been able to transpose a semitone up without any trouble. Bill From: Anthony Hind <[6]agno3ph...@yahoo.com> To: sterling price <[7]spiffys84...@yahoo.com> Cc: "[8]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" <[9]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011, 9:06 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 My 70 cm Warwick works well at 392Hz. While going from 407Hz to 392Hz, I wanted to raise the tension of the basses slightly, so I just shifted them along one increment (C1 to D2 etc). However, I changed most of the mid and top strings. The basses were two years old, but still seem good. A smaller lute, as Ed suggests, might be better at 415. Anthony PS My intuition might be that certain pieces are better played at 392, but perhaps not all. __________________________________________________________________ De : sterling price <[1][10]spiffys84...@yahoo.com> A : howard posner <[2][11]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>; baroque lute list <[3][12]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Envoye le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 5h18 Objet : [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 Hi-After just playing it now, I like the basses but the 1st and 2nd courses could be higher tension of course so I think I will go that way. Just curious--how many of you are playing baroque lutes at A=392? I think it works quite well on a larger lute, but I'm not convinced it should be done on a smaller lute(ie below 69cm). My 70.5cm Burkholzer will stay at 415. -Sterling From: howard posner <[1][4][13]howardpos...@ca.rr.com> To: baroque lute list <[2][5][14]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 7:15 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 On Nov 28, 2011, at 5:15 PM, sterling price wrote: > My question is: should I > just tune the same 415 strings down or get a new set of strings for > 392? Yes. Those are pretty much the only two options. > Right now it is at 392 but I'm wondering if it might sound better > with new strings. Any thoughts? Do you like it at 392 now? -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3][6][15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. mailto:[7][16]howardpos...@ca.rr.com 2. mailto:[8][17]baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. 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