I know this has come up before, but the amount of garbage on this list
is by _far_ the worst of any of the many lists I'm on.  It's obvious
that this list is set to allow non-subscribers to post, which I think
in this day and age is just no longer viable.

Yes, I am filtering very aggressivly, including using the character
sets for languages I can't read, common spam subjects and several
other things (including a filter based on whether or not the sender is
in my bbdb).  They keep me from having to actually look at most of
what's coming in, but at least a couple messages a day get by, and a
quick look at my spam catcher mailbox shows that a pretty high
percentage of what ends up there (lots) is coming through this list.
This from a user whose old email address is on at least hundreds of
IETF list archive pages - my spam load is quite considerable.  More
importantly, I tried to look in the list archive for a discussion I
remembered seeing, and the archive is almost useless because so much
of it is garbage.

Ok, so we've all seen this complaint before (but I couldn't find it in
the archive in a reasonable time - see above).  I can't imagine why
the person(s) running this list have chosen _not_ to make it a
subscriber-only list, but if it is because they don't want to do the
additional work that making it subscriber-only would add, then here's
my offer:

  If you'll give me the required access, I will manage any
  subscription-related work, including rejecting postings from
  non-subscribers.

I am an experienced Mailman administrator (I run several lists for
various non-profits), and have installed it a few times.

I've been using bbdb for several years, and would really like to see
it better integrated with lots of other things, but it needs a more
functional community to make that happen and this list could be a part
of that.  If I can contribute by making the list better, I'd like to
do that much at least.

-- 
Scott Lawrence        
  Actively seeking work 
  http://skrb.org/scott/
  [ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is deprecated ]



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