for clarification, the pesticide was SEVIN, not SEVEN???
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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: Need Help!!


> >You know how it is when you work scientific -- you have your fields
> >herbicided, then, you no till in what you wish and throw the nitrogen to
it.
> >So, he is wondering how much work he will need to put into the fields
doing
> >things our way -- and what can he expect in the crops.  For instance, the
> >corn -- it will have weeds -- or grasses -- no herbicides.  With little
to no
> >inputs over the years -- and the FB running for little over a year --
might
> >we expect good crops.
>
> wayne - I actually entered into a scenario like this at this time
> last year. My goal was to roll the agro-chemical no-till farmer who
> was leasing this land at the time that it became an enironmental
> preserve into a prosperous biological farmer. Only after a few
> conversations with him did I come to understand how distant his sense
> of the land was and how foreign actually interacting with the
> environment was for him. Even more to the point, he totally lacked
> the inner voice that we organic growers have, the one that keeps you
> in service to principle rather than in service to
> the-normal-american-factory-time-reality. Eventually, he gave up. He
> did give up before I did, but he gave up.
>
> I'm told that Mid-West Bioag and some other ACRES-found consulting
> companies have programs that make sense to chemical farmers. They
> even have ways of letting them use their 'chemical boxes' to let down
> some biological amendments.
>
> I rented a house to a fellow who was totally onboard with me as far
> as keeping the grounds biodynamic. I heard stories about him using
> Seven, but discounted them. Later, I found his chemical stash. He was
> putting shit down for diseases I've never heard of and from companies
> I've never seen before. Another neighbor told me that she always grew
> everything organically. (See 'Organic Horse Manure' says the bag) She
> dosed everything with SEVEN. When I asked her about that she said
> 'Well, you don't expect me to live with BUGS, do you?" My point here
> is that it's really different world's.
>
> By the way, as a spiritual scientist, I guess I'm offended by your
> use  of the word 'scientific agriculture,' eh?
>
> Later
>

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