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From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 6:15 PM
Subject: FWD:Saharasia


> From: Mark Shepard of Wisconsin:
>
>   I just read J. DeMeo's link from the BDnow site and was fascinated! I
> decided to read it while cross-referencing Lewis Mumford: "The Myth of The
> Machine".
>      If you look at the timing of the desertification and the distribution
of
> societies gone from Matrist to Patrist, they directly correlate with the
> development of annual tillage agriculture. They exactly correlate with the
> development of the major grain crops in use today in both the old world
and
> new.
>      Also, check out his examples of art from this transition period...
> (Mumford has other art examples that show the same thing) The "eden phase"
> was followed by pastoralism, then by ag/war and priest/kings. Perhaps the
> desertification was started first by the grazers... clearing and burning
> forest brushland and savannas to graze cows. (a lot less dangerous and
more
> predictable than hunting wild Aurochs!)

 Anyone who has grazed cattle knows
> that they don't eat everything and their pasture has to be "maintained"
with
> inputs...mowing, occasional plowing and re-planting and lots of seed.

Just for the record, this is nonsense. Read Andre Voisin, Grass
Productivity, or any of the more recent stuff from Bill Murphy's Greener
Pastures on Your Side of the Fence, to Allan Nation's Stockman Grass Farmer
literature www.stockmangrassfarmer.com to Allan Savory's Holistic Resource
Management materials.

>      Ancient grazers, not having these tools, turned first to sheep. After
> the sheep finished eliminating the last of the most palatable plants, no
> other grazing animals could survive but goats. When you get to the goats,
> you're at the ecological dead-end and you have a nomadic, degraded
ecosystem
> populated by hungry, pissed off asswholes. Saharasia... No doubt it didn't
> happen all at once overnight, but little by little for millennia...
>
>      Which came first, the chicken or the egg... Did NATURAL climate
change
> cause the need to shift to annual agriculture and patrist societies? Or
did
> patrist leaders (ie unemployed hunters... well armed and unemployed
because
> they killed all the game) gain control of their populations via annual
> agriculture...the destruction of complex, intact ecosystems and tillage of
> soil which lead inexorably to desertification ?
>
>      In either case, they went hand-in hand.  Where are we now? 99% of all
> agricultural land in the USA is a functional desert for 6-8 months of the
> year. (RIGHT NOW TODAY it is Poisoned, exposed soil)  Where does that type
> of agriculture (and patrist social structure) lead us? It is a degrading
> resource base with increasing costs.
>
>      Read Lewis Mumford concurrently with DeMeo... Follow it up with J
Russel
> Smith (Tree Crops) and Uncle Bill Mollison (Permaculture)  then GET OUT
> THERE AND DO IT!

I love trees, Lewis, J. Russel, and Uncle Bill. I also love Wes, Wendell and
Gene (Jackson, Berry and Logsdon, that'd be.) St-Barbe Baker is quite a
fellow too, as is Jean Giono's Man who planted trees. Ursula LeGuin is one
of my fave speculative fictionaries, 'The Word for World is Forest' one of
her goodies.

I have planted them, I will plant them.

More than that, I use 'tree power' in composting, taking a fair amount of
'bois rameal fragmente' or 'ramial chipped wood' or just chipped tree
trimmings (branch wood) for composting and mulching.

Elaine Ingham's latest e-zine contains a fascinating discussion of the
problems with plate count assessment of species richness and diversity, and
the advantages of other methods.

http://www.soilfoodweb.com/ezinearchives/feb2002.html

Some interesting bits pulled from that discussion include:

"Using DNA analysis, the number of species present in soil or compost is
much, much higher than what is assessed using plate counts. For example,
poor agricultural soil has species diversity of 5,000 or higher. Good
agricultural soil has species diversity of 25,000, while forests may be as
high as 40,000 species per gram. "

"Yes, old growth forest soil has enormous diversity. Yes, it has a greater
diversity than compost. But we don't add compost to old growth forest soil.
We add compost to poor agricultural soil in order to improve the life in
that soil."

My grandfather showed me how to 'rob the woods' to get rich soil for the
vegetable garden when I was a child. Ruth Stout mentioned people using wood
chips instead of hay and getting good results using her permanent mulch
method.

More recently, researchers here in Quebec have developed 'ramial chipped
wood' application techniques for field scale treatment of soils.

http://www.sbf.ulaval.ca/brf/regenerating_soils_98.html

Part of the method includes inoculating the wood chip mulch with forest
floor duff.

I am unclear on just what balance between arboreal and pastoral needs to be
struck in our planet paradise paradigm. But I do not buy the simplistic
notion that grazing leads, willy nilly, to desertification.

How 'bout them turnips at Storch's, eh?

Frank Teuton----dances with paradigms


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