Ok, I am running windows 2000, I have perl, but I do not know which distribution, I do not think that it is activestate's however. I searched by drive and found ppm in a folder in the perl folder, but there is no executable and I do not know how to run it at the dos command line. I have downloaded a tar file of the module I want, but there is no PPD or XML file like is described in the documentation for ppm. I do have a c compiler however. Please help. Thanks, -Nick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com