Hey Nick, Thursday, June 21, 2001, 2:46:11 PM, you wrote: NT> Ok, I am running windows 2000, I have perl, but I do not know NT> which distribution, I do not think that it is activestate's NT> however. I searched by drive and found ppm in a folder in the NT> perl folder, but there is no executable and I do not know how to NT> run it at the dos command line. I have downloaded a tar file of NT> the module I want, but there is no PPD or XML file like is NT> described in the documentation for ppm. I do have a c compiler NT> however. Please help. Thanks, Bring up a command prompt and type "perl -v" that will tell you what version you are running. Hopefully it is in your path... You could also try typing ppm at the command prompt to see what happens... If it runs, type search The_Module_you_want, then when it returns pick what you want and type install The_Module. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.53d Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) Why get even, when you can get odd?