Duleep,

> Then end user experiences high latency to reach destination. In such
> a case, I suggest router need to consider geographic distance to
> destination and select path via NTT to reach destination by default.

Question 1: How does the router know about user's high latency ?

Question 2: How do you assure Internet stability where you start churning
paths based on the latency of data plane ?

Question 3: What you are after has effectively been solved many years ago
.. it is called Optimized Edge Routing (OER) / Performace Routing (PFR) - I
suggest you google for those terms.

Regards,
R.












On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Duleep Thilakarathne <dule...@mobitel.lk>
wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
>
>
> Please refer below example.
>
>
>
> Assume destination IP is in Asian region. Particular ISP in a different
>  location (Say India) has upstream peering to US POP (Say AT&T) and Asia
> POP (Say NTT). If we check BGP routing table, assume it shows
>
>
>
> XX.XX.XX.XX/24 ------àAS - AT&T,AS-XX,AS-Destination
>
>                                 ------àAS - NTT,AS-YY,AS-Destination
>
>
>
>
>
> In above case AS-PATH is equal and assume router automatically select path
> via AT&T. Then end user experiences high latency to reach destination. In
> such a case, I suggest router need to consider geographic distance to
> destination and select path via NTT to reach destination by default.
> Deciding geo distance is a challenge but there are options. Here geo
> distance means shortest distance to reach IP destination from upstream POP.
> Current practice is to use community strings, but it depends on upstream
> ISP capability.
>
>
>
> Can you comment my idea.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Duleept
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* UTTARO, JAMES [mailto:ju1...@att.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 7, 2015 4:09 PM
> *To:* Duleep Thilakarathne; 'Robert Raszuk'
>
> *Cc:* 'bess@ietf.org'
> *Subject:* Re: [bess] BGP route selection criteria - geographic distance
> when AS_PATH are equal
>
>
>
> Duleep,
>
>
>
>                 Assuming AS-PATH is equal and AS-Content different how can
> you know that the internal metrics of each AS are consistent and mirror
> actual geographic distances? You have to be assured that each
> administrative domain applies the same metric assignment. I do not believe
> this is possible when there are multiple administrative domains.
>
>
>
> Jim Uttaro
>
>
>
> *From:* BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org <bess-boun...@ietf.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *Duleep Thilakarathne
> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2015 5:19 AM
> *To:* Robert Raszuk
> *Cc:* bess@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [bess] BGP route selection criteria - geographic distance
> when AS_PATH are equal
>
>
>
> Hi Raszuk,
>
>
>
> I went through RFC7311 and my concern is different than RFC 7311. I have
> analyzed full BGP routing table (541,199 routes) with two tier 1 ISP
> multi-homing scenario and found nearly 50% of routes have equal AS-PATH
> length. In this analysis It was considered, there was no route policy
> applied to influence local preference. According to BGP best path selection
> algorithm, when AS-PATH lengths  are equal, router breaks tie condition
> based on route internal logic. This does not grantee proper outgoing path
> selection.
>
>
>
> Appreciate your concern on above analysis.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Duleept
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net <rob...@raszuk.net>]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 2:40 AM
> *To:* Duleep Thilakarathne
> *Cc:* bess@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [bess] BGP route selection criteria - geographic distance
> when AS_PATH are equal
>
>
>
> Hi Duleep,
>
>
>
> Please consider RFC 7311 and provide feedback why you think it is not
> sufficient for your objective.
>
>
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7311
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> R.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Duleep Thilakarathne <dule...@mobitel.lk>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would like to suggest to consider geographic distance when AS_PATH  are
> equal in BGP route selection criteria. (as tie breaking rule). Can anybody
> comment on my idea.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Duleept
>
>
>
>
>
>
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