On 10/18/07, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 18, 2007, at 06:14, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > > > Just curious (as I'm not intending to work on this either). But what > > exactly would be needed to be done for integration with Mellel? I > > personally think that most of the required hard work (i.e. everything > > that requires detailed knowledge of Mellel's proprietary file format) > > would be the responsibility of Mellel, not a reference manager. Also > > as they already support different citation managers, and it's stupid > > to let each one redo that job. While the Mellel developers kbnow > > thier format, so with their existing code that job would be > > infinitely easier. From that POV, I would say BibDesk already has > > almost all that is needed. > > From their response to me (below) and my vague recollection, I gather > that BibDesk is responsible for accepting a list of temp citations > (correspond loosely to cite keys), then producing a formatted > bibliography as RTF that is passed back via Apple Events. If they used > a DO API, I'd have done this for fun...but the Apple Event stuff is > hairy.
There's a mildly non-hairy (wispy moustache?) way to get at Apple Events, if you're interested - Registering handlers for them and getting their data is really easy in Cocoa using NSAppleEventManager/Descriptor. I did this for the NetNewsWire "Post to blog" apple event in Blapp: http://blapp.cvs.sourceforge.net/blapp/blapp/DirectoryWinController.m?r1=1.23&r2=1.24 Sending is a little more confusing from the docs, since you can't use NSAppleEventManager to send, but it turns out that NSAppleEventDescriptors can be sent using AESend() - it's almost like the Carbon-Cocoa bridge: http://lists.apple.com/archives/applescript-implementors/2006/Mar/msg00024.html Not bad, as long as the Mellel interface isn't too complicated. So if anyone (not me, I should be writing python or f90 now) wants to have at it, that should be a good start. Cheers, -mike > > >> I guess my most basic question is this: what information would > >> Mellel provide to BibDesk, and what does it expect in return? > > > > The usual workflow is this: > > a. The user inserts citations by going to the bibliography > > application, finding the citations and then dragging them or > > pressing a button (depending on the bibliography application). The > > inserted citations are called "temp citations" and are usually > > formatted for the convenience of the bibliography database > > (containing a unique ID, full details etc) > > b. When the user wants to produce the final manuscript, he presses > > the scan button and the following happens (communication is done via > > Apple Events) > > 1. Mellel scans the document and collects the "temp > > citations" (unformatted citations) > > 2. Mellel passes these to the bibliography application > > 3. The bibliography application formats the citations and generates > > the bibliography and passes them back to Mellel > > 4. Mellel integrates the new citations+bibliography in the document. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > -- Michael McCracken UCSD CSE PhD Candidate research: http://www.cse.ucsd.edu/~mmccrack/ misc: http://michael-mccracken.net/wp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
