Robert Daniels wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 March 2008 23:06:28 Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
>> Sukucorp Sukucorp wrote:
>>> If you use DESTDIR approach, you are deviating from the book. If
>>> you are deviating from the book it is assumed that you know what
>>> you are doing.
>>>
>>> Anyway this point might be moot if LFS starts supporting a package
>>> manager of some sort.
>> With this "discouraging" attitude, package management will never
>> become part of the LFS book.
>>
> IMO, using DESTDIR is a deviation from the 6.3 book, 

Yes, strictly speaking, it is.

> and is generally discouraged.

Only from the point of view that it does not follow the books's 
instructions verbatim.  There is a whole page in LFS discussing Package 
Management.  There are also sever hints that are referenced there that 
go into a lot more detail.

> At the least it is indeed assumed you can deal with any 
> problems that may crop up.

This is the same as with any deviations from the book, but some help can 
be offered via lfs-support and blfs-support.

> That said, I do believe PM is the way forward beyond 6.3.  I can't say I 
> look forward to dealing with these kind of issues when PM is supported, 
> but I think the books will be better for it in 7.0 or whenever PM is 
> added.

The problem is that there are several package management schemes and 
they are generally incompatible.  They are also targeted towards binary 
installs.

When discussing PM, we first need to agree on the goals.  What are we 
trying to do with it?  Install an upgraded package transparently?  Keep 
track of files on an LFS/BLFS system?  Uninstall a package?  The only 
practical way I can see for doing any of that is to have a separate 
application do the work.  At that point we are fundamentally not doing 
it "from Scratch" any more.  It may as well be Gentoo.

   -- Bruce


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