Hi again, just a quick update: Regarding when characters are talking about stories or giving you choices of events to go to, In the case of a choice, pressing A should set a route to the first choice.
In the case of a story, if the character isn’t giving you a choice then I’ve found that they usually set a route for you automatically. So you should not press A at that point and just try driving. You should find that Anna will be guiding you. Again, it’s not friendly and it would have been so simple to implement fixes for this sort of thing but I hope these tips help and don’t cause more confusion. :) I found a lot of this by just trial and error. Hope this helps at least somewhat. :) Cheers! Cara > On Aug 4, 2023, at 3:55 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: > > Hey Lenron, > > Sorry for the delay. It’s been a busy day! :) > > I’ll need to go back in the list archives and see what I sent along a few > months back. It’s been a while since I went through the initial parts of the > game but if you can let me know where you left off, that will be helpful. > > What I can say is that I believe the major sticking point in the beginning of > the game is that you need to get to the first Showcase event which is called > “On a Wing and a Prayer” and you’re not automatically routed there. More > specifically, I think you can start with other races as well, but you’re just > not given an automatic route to start. There are ways around this though. > > I was actually able to do it myself by accident. It was really not clear to > me what needed to be done at that point in the game but I was able to find > the pin on the map and just pressed the A button to set a route to the On a > Wing and a Prayer showcase event. If you do by chance have sighted help, the > symbol for it is an airplane. > > I didn’t know where I was going but I did know that I was going somewhere! > lol! > > From what I remember, (and someone else may be able to correct me here) if > you can locate that event on the map and complete it, you should have an > easier time as it will not only open up more events and races on the map, but > will also allow you to be routed to stories automatically. > > When you hear one of the characters talking about a story or choice of races > for example, if you just press A without doing anything else, you should > automatically be routed to the first choice. You can then progress in the > game that way. > > Until you can unlock the ability to just use the D-Pad to activate Anna for > certain parts of the game, the game will not be super friendly but will > absolutely be doable. It’s definitely not frustration-free and I really wish > they would have had someone knowledgeable to consult with for this. -Or at > least if they were able to do any kinds of updates to the accessibility > systems to assist with the map, this would go a long way to making this a lot > more fun to get started with. > > There are a few tips to keep in mind when using the map. > > 1 you can move around the map either by using the left stick or the D-Pad. I > prefer the D-Pad as I am guaranteed a straight line as I’m moving. > > 2 You can zoom in or out on the map with the right and left triggers, > respectively. This may make it easier to select pins. > > 3 You can filter the map elements by first pressing the right shoulder > button, then X, and finally A to clear all map elements. If you then use the > D-Pad to move up and down, you should see a list of map elements that you can > click on to show on the map. Once you show the map elements you want by > selecting them, you can then press B to get back to the map where those > elements will now be displayed. > > 4 You can hear where pins are on the map. So when you hear one, you can > simply press A to be routed there. Anna Should then let you know that your > route is active and start giving you directions as you drive. > > 5 If you happen to be on a route that you don’t want to be on, you can > usually cancel it by just opening the map and clicking A. > > 6 You can set a route to anywhere at all on the map even if you do not hear a > pin. So this can at least get you started with driving. I’ll talk about this > more below. > > For me, I located the first showcase event by using the D-Pad to move across > the map back and forth. If I remember correctly, you’re really not that far > away from the Wing and a Prayer showcase when you start, so it really only > took a few passes across the map for me to find the pin. I can’t remember if > it was north or south of me. but it wasn’t super far away, from what I can > remember. Don’t hold me to it though! :) > > So for example, if I wanted to look for something that I only knew was north > of me, I could either use D-Pad up if I knew it was straight north of me, and > then press A when I heard the pin sound. Or, if I did not know specifically > where it was, then I would simply hold right on the D-Pad until I reached the > right edge of the map, click up once and then hold left until I reached the > left side of the map and do the same thing again. > > Holding the D-Pad moves the cursor pretty quickly so you only need to wait a > couple of seconds so this is not as bad as it sounds. > > it’s of course not super friendly but you’ll also find that you need to do > this less and less as the game progresses. Once Anna is enabled on the D-Pad, > you can have her find races etc for you automatically. > > As I mentioned above, the other way you can use the map early in the game is > simply to move the cursor anywhere at all on the map and click A to set a > route there. What should happen is that you will be creating a route to > wherever you are pointing and Anna should then begin giving you directions. > You will most likely find that you will pass races, stories and events along > the way and you should be able to join these to progress in the game that way. > > You can pretty much guarantee finding races like this if you choose a point > really far away from where you are. When you open the map, you will be > pointing at your position. So if you use the D-Pad and hold a direction, wait > for a couple of seconds, and then press A, you should then have a pretty long > route set and you should find several events that you can participate in > along the way. > > I still use this method to park at a place on the beach that I like. > > I go to a particular race event and then just move the cursor all the way to > the right on the map and set a route there. This gets me to a particular > place on the beach on the east coast of the map. > > I hope this helps for now. If you can give me any more details I may be able > to be more specific. > > I’ll see if I can find anything useful that I said on the list a few months > back. > > Best of luck! > > Have a great weekend, and Happy Driving! > > Cheers! > > Cara > > > > > >> On Aug 3, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Lenron <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Cara can you please give some info on things I need to get passed >> in Forza Horizon 5? I haven't really been able to get started with >> that one. I noticed that if they could fixed the map and a few other >> sticking points we would be good to go. Some of the menus just don't >> speak at all. It's a shame Hogwarts Legacy isn't blind accessible. I >> really wanted to play this one. I really think we need to tap in more >> with devs and push for even more accessibility, or really start >> creating our own main stream games. That everyone else can play. >> Motorsport was the first time in a long time I pre-ordered a game. I >> wondere if anyone has been in touch with Ubisoft about making the crew >> motorfest blind accessible. The sounds for the cars in that game is >> amazing. It should be out in September. >> >> >> On 8/3/23, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote: >>> Mich, >>> >>> Just my opinion, but if PS-5 is what you’re after, you really don’t need the >>> built-in drive unless you either have older PS games that you’d like to >>> import or if you want to play movies like you mentioned. >>> >>> I’ll revisit the Blu-ray player to see if everything is accessible on it. I >>> tried it when I got the console but at the time I was not completely >>> familiar with navigating it with the controller so I will need to look at it >>> again. I will let you know what I find. >>> >>> Regarding X-Box, you can set it up independently from what I remember. If I >>> remember correctly, the keystroke to turn on Narrator works right out of the >>> box so it’s really no biggie. >>> >>> From what I can remember, I actually think I had an easier time setting up >>> the X-Box than I did with the PS-5 but that’s just me. :) Your milage may >>> vary. >>> >>> Anyway, have a great evening and best of luck with what you decide. Will >>> write when I have more info. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> Cara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 4:54 PM, <mi...@eastlink.ca> <mi...@eastlink.ca> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Cara and all. Yes you bring up a verry good point. Accessibillidey is >>>> a verry Brod term and you almost have to divide the accessibillidey into >>>> the different disibillideys for instance madder skills, vi, blind, wheel >>>> chair etc. since what might be accessible to some one in a wheel chair >>>> might be pointless to play for those of us who have no sight or verry >>>> limmided sight. The same go’s for vi people who have some sight verses >>>> some one who has no sight things like couler contrast font size and other >>>> things don’t mean anything to those of us who have no sight. I have played >>>> audio games for years and I used to play my sisters Nintendo first when I >>>> had some sight up until I was 6. So I am just trying to play some more >>>> console games. Of korce I need to save up for a consul and the differences >>>> between x box and ps 5 and the 2 different ps 5’s that are out there is >>>> kindof overwhelming. That is why I am asking so many questions and trying >>>> to get as much info as I can. I have saved up just a small amount for the >>>> ps 5. I like that since I have seen vidiows of games using that that the >>>> screen reader starts right away as I have said and there is no need for >>>> sighted help when it comes to setting it up. I am sure the same is true of >>>> x box but just from looking around on YouTube I can’t find any vidiows >>>> that show narader in action on x box except if you count those that show >>>> you how to tern it off and on lol. From Mich. >>>> >>>> From: blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>> <blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>> On Behalf Of Cara >>>> Quinn >>>> Sent: August 3, 2023 5:32 PM >>>> To: mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> >>>> Cc: Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>>; >>>> blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have >>>> found better x box? or ps 5? >>>> >>>> Hi Mich, >>>> >>>> I have no idea about the Spiderman games and I’m wondering about them >>>> myself. >>>> >>>> I have not heard anything definitive on this which brings up a really >>>> important point I think. >>>> >>>> This has come up here before, but the concept of accessibility is kind of >>>> a pain the way it is used when people are describing games. >>>> >>>> For example, when I was looking up info on Hogwarts Legacy, it looked, for >>>> all intents and purposes that the game could be played without sight but >>>> that’s just not the case, unless I’m missing some really basic features >>>> somewhere. :) >>>> >>>> I can get through the menus and such but as I mentioned, the most basic >>>> features of assisted navigation or having any kind of audio guides etc are >>>> just not there. So I can’t find any way at present to really play the game >>>> without assistance right from the start. >>>> >>>> So calling this game accessible is a no go in my opinion. >>>> >>>> Anyway, so far, from what I’ve read on the Spiderman games, I can’t find >>>> anything that specifically says that it has features that would be >>>> necessary or even helpful in actual game-play for someone playing without >>>> any sight at all. >>>> >>>> I’ll give the site you mentioned a look and see if I’ve missed anything >>>> though. I’m very curious. >>>> >>>> Thanks Mich, if I find out anything more about any of the games in this >>>> thread, I’ll be sure to let you know. >>>> >>>> Have a great day! >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> Cara >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:57 PM, <mi...@eastlink.ca >>>>> <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> <mi...@eastlink.ca >>>>> <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello yes that does help. I have played the Vale on the pc and beet it >>>>> and liked the game. I have not played any of the other games you >>>>> menchend. Is it true that the spiderman games would be pliable by those >>>>> of us who are blind? Since I red that on the websight caniplaythat.com >>>>> <http://caniplaythat.com/> from Mich. >>>>> >>>>> From: blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>>> <blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io>> On Behalf Of >>>>> Cara Quinn >>>>> Sent: August 3, 2023 4:32 PM >>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>>> Cc: Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have >>>>> found better x box? or ps 5? >>>>> >>>>> also, on X-Box, there are The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, A Western >>>>> Drama, and Forza Horizon 5. >>>>> >>>>> A Western Drama is fair at best, in my opinion, but is specifically >>>>> designed for blind folks. >>>>> >>>>> I have The Vale - Shadow of the Crown, but have not gotten into it yet. I >>>>> believe it is also specifically designed to be played without sight, as >>>>> it has no graphics to speak of. >>>>> >>>>> Forza Horizon 5 is my favorite game at the minute, (and it has been for >>>>> some time now) but I would say, is somewhat accessible. There are a few >>>>> sticking points in the game but once you get past them and learn how the >>>>> game works, you can certainly enjoy about 75 percent of it accessibly. >>>>> It’s far from perfect but It really is very good for a mainstream racing >>>>> experience. >>>>> >>>>> I’m also looking forward to the release of the next Forza Motorsport. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding PS-5, Really, the only games I’ve found so far to be completely >>>>> accessible, are the Last of Us 1 and 2. >>>>> >>>>> I’m also playing Hogwarts Legacy with a friend and while it is sort of >>>>> accessible in some ways, it lacks some crucial features for simple >>>>> in-game navigation which really make it close to impossible to play >>>>> without sight. >>>>> >>>>> Hogwarts Legacy is also available on X-Box but right now I’m only playing >>>>> it on PS-5. If I try it on X-Box and find that it’s any better, I will >>>>> certainly let y'all know. >>>>> >>>>> I’m trying to research other truly blind-accessible games for PS-5 at the >>>>> minute as well, so I am also interested in other’s experiences with >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps and have a great day! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> Cara >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 5:59 AM, Lenron <lenro...@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Diablo iv, forza motorsport will be comes out in a couple months. As >>>>>> dusk falls. Are a few I can think of off the top of my head. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/3/23, goshawk on horseback <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk >>>>>> <mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am still trying to find what accessible games, if there are any, are >>>>>>> available for xbox, as that is what I have. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Jen . >>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 9:25 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople have >>>>>>> found better x box? or ps 5? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What genres of games are available for both systems and what version >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> both systems have the accessibility. >>>>>>> Would either one of these systems be playable by someone with no >>>>>>> vision. >>>>>>> Jen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2023, at 1:58 AM, goshawk on horseback >>>>>>> <goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk >>>>>>> <mailto:goshawk_on_horseb...@fastmail.co.uk>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would agree with this, as whilst I have heard about the speech >>>>>>> being >>>>>>> available on the PS5, I have also heard that it isn't up to much, where >>>>>>> as I >>>>>>> can say that the speech on the Xbox is good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: michael barnes >>>>>>> To: blind-gamers@groups.io <mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2023 4:36 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] I have another question witch epople >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> found better x box? or ps 5? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I prefer the Xbox. I feel that the Xbox is more accessible than >>>>>>> PlayStation five. However, it is a persons preference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Mich Verrier <mi...@eastlink.ca >>>>>>> <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all I am also wondering witch game consul is better x box? Or >>>>>>> ps >>>>>>> 5? I have red about PS 5 Thor Ragnarock edditions as well and would >>>>>>> like to >>>>>>> know what those are? Also are you able to use the PS 5 To play blue >>>>>>> ray >>>>>>> movies? And if so is the accessibillidey extend to just games? Or if >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> wanted to play a blue ray dvd of a movie could you do it and still have >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> screen reader option reading you the menu? I know that this can be dun >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> PS 5 playing blue rays I mean so I thought I would ask if playing blue >>>>>>> ray >>>>>>> movies would also be possible but was not shure about the menu of the >>>>>>> ps 5 >>>>>>> if it would read out what you needed toknow or if it was only for >>>>>>> gameing? I >>>>>>> have never dun this before and so that is the reason why I thought I >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> ask. Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from Temiskaming Shores Ontario >>>>>>> Canada. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Lenron Brown >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype: ron.brown762 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lenron Brown >> >> >> Skype: ron.brown762 >> >> >> >> >> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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