I think we're running a few different subjects together here. Let me try to explain.
First, someone is mixing up an auto hammer with a concrete nail gun. I really don't know the correct name for the concrete nailer but what they were talking about here was a device that held a 22 caliber blank, which drives a special nail into concrete. They are available in a model which you hit with a hammer and also one with a trigger. Next, there is an Auto hammer, by Craftsman and one by Ryobi. It is a rechargeable tool with a 12 volt battery. You place the head of the nail up to the magnetized head on the hammer, then hold it pushing the nail against the wood and it automatically hammers it as long as long as you hold pressure against it. I tried this thing at Sears and was not very impressed. It's supposed to drive up to a size 16 D nail but it sure had to strain to do it. If you hit a knot in the wood, forget it. I talked to an out of work carpenter, working at Sears and he said the Pneumatic palm nailer was much more powerful and usually cost less than the electric auto hammer. Neither of these two nailers are suitable for nailing into concrete, I don't think, but, Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong about using the palm nailer for concrete nailer, since I don't have experience with it. The next thing that was brought was using Tapcon screws with a predrilled hole, instead of any kind of a nailer. Hope this clears up some of the confusion. Regards, Tom H. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Terrie Robbins Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:08 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block Tom Just to clarify, does one need to pre drill a hole in the concrete prior to using these tapcon screws or just use the auto hammer? My thinking upon reading all the posts on these, was one drilled a hole and then used a drill with a Phillips or square bit (depending on the screw head) and put the screw in? al Al -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]On Behalf Of Tom Hodges Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block Lenny, I don't know the name of the special bit because I don't have the package anymore. I have never used a plain Phillips bit or a square bit, I have only used the combination bit and it works better than any screw I've ever used. It isn't for concrete so I wouldn't be using it with a hammer drill. The bits come in the box of screws, but it is a very short one and can not be held by my quick release chuck. But, I buy the longer bit at Lowes and they have them hanging on the shelf right next to the boxes of screws and they also have them where the rest of the screwdriver bits are sold. Regards, Tom H. From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:59 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block Tom, The contractor friend that showed them to me uses a hammer drill. He told me that it never slips because when it gets tight it will go into hammer drilling motion. This will put the screw in with no slipping. Since I have neither I could not test his theory. As for the screws with both Phillips and square drive, I had two boxes and tossed them out. I destroyed a good Phillips screw driver. one of the sides was sheared off because there is only a very small portion that makes contact. Also a square drive bit tended to slip since the square pocket was not deep enough. Where did you locate the combination bit and is there a special name for it? --- Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous with many resources for the blind. http://www.lennymchugh.com Lenny Please Copy and Paste into New Message to pass along. Use BCC line when addressing. Help stop identity theft. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hodges" <tomhod...@fuse.net <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> <mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> > To: <blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block I have used the Tapcon concrete screws quite often and have one big problem with them. The ones with the Phillips head are a problem because the screw bit rides up out of the screw when the screw becomes tight in the predrilled hole. I believe they would work a lot better if they had a drive like the screws I've been buying at Lowes lately. They are not concrete screws but they have a Phillips head with a square drive at the tip. In other words, you can use a Phillips bit, a square bit or for the most positive contact is there is a special bit that comes with screws that has both a Phillips bit with a square tip on it. With the special bit, the bit never rides up out of the screw. For those who are visually impaired, like me, who can't always hold the drill exactly perpendicular to the screw, this bit still holds. Although these screws are available only in exterior grade, I use them exclusively indoors because of the fact that don't allow slippage with the bit. Regards, Tom H. -----Original Message----- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:58 PM To: handyman-blind Subject: [BlindHandyMan] TapconR Concrete Screws- Stainless Steel Concrete Screws for fastening to concrete, brick and block Al, here is a little more information. I did not see the length choices. Probably somewhere else on the site. TapconR concrete screws are ideal for use in concrete, brick or block base material. The threads of the Tapcons actually cut threads into the base material - providing excellent holding values. The TapconR concrete screw comes in two diameters - 3/16" and 1/4", and two different head styles- hex washer head and flat counter sunk Phillips. The bit to use with each size of TapconR are: a.. 3/16" diameter TapconR = 5/32" bit b.. 1/4" diameter TapconR = 3/16" bit Each TapconR is coated with a Blue ClimasealR coating. This coating provides excellent rust resistance. Tapcons have also been tested in a salt spray environment for 720 hours with less than 10% red rust, per ASTM B117. 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