LGTM3

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 6:02 PM Daniel Bratell <bratel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> LGTM2
>
> /Daniel
> On 2024-05-15 07:13, Domenic Denicola wrote:
>
> LGTM1.
>
> I have a small non-blocking request: update your Chrome Status entry to
> avoid using ClassName.staticMethod() syntax for what appears to be an
> instance method. (See e.g. this related discussion
> <https://github.com/orgs/mdn/discussions/248> and this bug I filed on
> Chrome Status a year ago
> <https://github.com/GoogleChrome/chromium-dashboard/issues/2801>.) This
> will avoid a confusing experience for web developers when this information
> makes its way into the beta blog post and other documentation.
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 5:49:30 AM UTC+9 Eugene Zemtsov wrote:
>
>> By reading an MDN article that I'll update after the launch.
>>
>> Even now allocationSize() is supposed to be called before copyTo()
>> anyway, to figure out the size of the buffer for the output. (see example
>> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/VideoFrame/copyTo#examples>1,
>> example2
>> <https://gist.github.com/Djuffin/9e2f98025ead49998524510cfeed8d33#example>
>> )
>> That's why I don't think that it's an ergonomic burden for developers.
>>
>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:41 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ergonomics-wise, it does not seem intuitive to use a method called
>>> allocationSize() to feature detect copyTo support, even if the semantics
>>> are the same. Besides a very careful reading of the spec, how do we expect
>>> developers to know about it?
>>> On 5/14/24 4:32 PM, Eugene Zemtsov wrote:
>>>
>>> In that discussion Marcos Cáceres asked for a synchronous way to detect
>>> if format conversion is supported.
>>> We have a synchronous call allocationSize()
>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/webcodecs/#dom-videoframe-allocationsize> that
>>> throws an unsupported error in cases where format conversion is not
>>> supported.
>>> I added a WPT test around it in a recent CL
>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5530313>.
>>>
>>> canCopyTo() might be needed if we have more settings in
>>> VideoFrameCopyToOptions
>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/webcodecs/#dictdef-videoframecopytooptions> and
>>> might want to know which part exactly is causing an error.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 12:25 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see that WebKit raised an API concern around detectability
>>>> <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/341#issuecomment-2099746809>.
>>>> In your reply, you said "we should consider...". Has that consideration
>>>> happened, perhaps as follow-up work? :)
>>>> On 5/8/24 4:05 PM, Eugene Zemtsov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This feature has Privacy, Security, Enterprise, and Debuggability
>>>> approvals. Webkit gave a positive signal.
>>>>
>>>> Any objections or questions from the API owners?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 4:26 PM Eugene Zemtsov <ezemt...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've filed issues for TAG review and firefox and webkit positions.
>>>>>
>>>>> >  Have you looked into other platform APIs that could benefit from
>>>>> being able to explicitly specify intermediate format hinting and/or
>>>>> transformation?
>>>>> I don't think this kind of review can be done for all web APIs by one
>>>>> person. It's up to spec editors in each area to identify these small
>>>>> changes that improve dev experience and performance.
>>>>>
>>>>> For media related things:
>>>>> -  VideoFrame is a versatile tool that can be created from
>>>>> HTMLOrSVGImageElement, HTMLVideoElement, HTMLCanvasElement,
>>>>> ImageBitmap,
>>>>>          OffscreenCanvas without a copy. In a way this change extends
>>>>> variety of export formats for all of them.
>>>>>     So lots of things can be exported to RGB bitmaps without a canvas
>>>>> now.
>>>>> -  AudioData has a way to be exported into different sampling formats.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 9:41 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1. Would you mind also filing gecko and webkit positions? I expect
>>>>>> them to be positive, given the informal signals you have in the spec PRs
>>>>>> already - but this also lets them know we're moving ahead with shipping.
>>>>>> Thanks - Mike
>>>>>> On 5/1/24 11:51 AM, Alex Russell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hey Eugene,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an exciting an useful addition! Have you looked into other
>>>>>> platform APIs that could benefit from being able to explicitly specify
>>>>>> intermediate format hinting and/or transformation? It's a place where 
>>>>>> (had
>>>>>> the TAG been consulted) I would have expected to see a larger chain of
>>>>>> additions to make this work in other areas, or at least a discussion of 
>>>>>> why
>>>>>> they aren't (or are?) being pursued. Have you looked into that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 3:51:01 PM UTC-7 Eugene Zemtsov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Can you please request reviews for privacy, security, enterprise,
>>>>>>> etc in the chromestatus entry?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 7:44 AM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you please request reviews for privacy, security, enterprise,
>>>>>>>> etc in the chromestatus entry?
>>>>>>>> On 4/25/24 6:19 PM, 'Eugene Zemtsov' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact emails ezemt...@google.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>>>> https://gist.github.com/Djuffin/9e2f98025ead49998524510cfeed8d33
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Specification
>>>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/webcodecs/#dom-videoframe-copyto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> VideoFrame.copyTo() can convert pixel data to RGB pixel format
>>>>>>>> Converting YUV video frames to RGB is often required for processing 
>>>>>>>> them in
>>>>>>>> libraries like TensorFlow.js and OpenCV.js. Previously the only 
>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>> way to achieve this was rendering the frame on a canvas. Specifying
>>>>>>>> VideoFrameCopyToOptions.format and VideoFrameCopyToOptions.colorSpace 
>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>> it possible to convert frames to RGB pixel formats by calling
>>>>>>>> VideoFrame.copyTo() without having to use an extra canvas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>Media>WebCodecs
>>>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EMedia%3EWebCodecs>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Initial public proposal https://github.com/w3c/webcodecs/issues/92
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TAG review N/A since the change is minor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webcodecs/pull/754#pullrequestreview-2008590591
>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Positive TPAC 2023. Media working group session.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Web developers*:
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/webcodecs/issues/92#issuecomment-1594083978
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs,
>>>>>>>> such that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based
>>>>>>>> applications?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>>>> ? Yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/webcodecs videoFrame-copyTo-rgb.any.js
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 126
>>>>>>>> Shipping on Android 126
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/4668827056209920
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Eugene Zemtsov.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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