From: Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Pedro...
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:56:06 -0700 (PDT)

--- Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Points to Pedro for walking into Yankee Stadium and
> pitching 7 great
> >innings.
> >
>
> Points off for the beanball he threw that started it
> all and subsequent lack
> of apology to the fans and Zim.  What a sportsman!
> ;-)
>
> Jon
> Not Even Man Enough to Apologize Maru

I don't agree at all about Zimmer.  What, Pedro was
supposed to let Zimmer hit him just because he's 72?

No. He could have stepped aside. He could have backed away, thrown up his hands and said forcefully "I don't want to fight you".


If Pedro had decked him, I might have objected.

Avoiding a fight at all costs by remaining rational and taking a non-violent stance would have been more impressive.


Zimmer's an adult, and he knew exactly what he risked
when he charged onto the field like a crazed gerbil.

*snicker* Zimmer's an idiot.


Kudos to Pedro, actually, for doing the absolute
minimum to protect himself - basically just pushing
Zimmer aside - instead of what he really could have
done.

That's not the absolute minimum. The absolute minimum would have been to not act aggressively and simply defend himself with the least effort.



In the case of Garcia, actually, I'm not really convinced that he was aiming for the head. If Pedro Martinez wants to hit you in the head, he's _going_ to hit you in the head, given his control and velocity.


Semantics. The ball was aimed at the man and not the plate, which was wrong.


The fact that he hit Garcia close to, but not on, the
head, suggests to me that's probably exactly what he
wanted to do.  He still shouldn't have thrown the
pitch, but Yankee fans (Roger Clemens, anybody?) have
_no_ room to complain on this one.

He was wrong. No excuses. Clemens is wrong when he does it too. Yankee fans have every right to complain, as do Sox fans in the same situation.



He threw 100+ pitches on a torn rotator cuff in a supremely high stress situation against a superb offensive team in their own home park - and kept them to two solo home runs. Anything that happened after the 7th inning is his manager's fault for not having the basic common sense to pull him with a 3 run lead.

Agreed.


Jon


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