On Sunday 2004-01-11 13:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This guy did nothing and they treated him like he personally guided the > planes into the Twin Towers by wire.
Now the problem is that you cannot be certain he was not important until AFTER his, er, thorough interogation by third parties. Israeli and American intelligence experts are telling the press that the odds of infiltrating Islamist Nonstate Violent Groups is essentially nil. Either they need to become so unpopular amoung their indigenous base that INVGs become non-viable OR you pursue them through interrogation based intelligence (or citizens become squemish about abusive police practices and interogation techniques, learning to live in a significantly more dangerous world...). A big problem with interogation based intelligence is that you need to sift though a lot of noise to find signal. Perhaps you arrest and tort..., ah, thoroughly interrogate 99 basically innocent profilees to snare a single operative or active supporter. [ Operative: member of group Active Supporter: gives aid or comfort Passive Supporter: (neither participates or supports, but is passively sympathetic) ] There *IS* a very real trade off between liberty and security. SOOO... The main complaints have been about citizens of close allies, eg the UK or Canada. One rather expects them to retaliate. How long until they decide to render or indefinitely detain US Citizens? [Would the Bushies care?] How long until they warn their businessmen and tourists that visiting the US isn't safe? How long until they stop sharing anti-terrorist intel in retaliation? _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
