----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Dan says SS = SSA


> On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
>
> > Different types of risk, sorry.  I'm slipping into financial sector
> > jargon.  US Government Securities (and all of the ones you are talking
> > about are US Government securities) are all riskless assets.  The risk
> > referred to is the risk of default only - basically the risk of losing
> > your nominal principal.  The other stuff is, of course, relevant to
> > calculations of your real risk, and stuff you should take into account
> > in financial planning.
>
> And interest rate and inflation risk should be taken into account in
> this situation, which is why I mentioned it. The SS trust fund will go
> negative in not too many years.

IIRC, this will happen in more than 30 years.  Its the Medicare trust fund
that is projected to go negative soon.


>So it is NOT a long term investment. It  will need to come up with the
cash, and risking it on a 30 year bond
> which could lose a lot of value when interest rates rise would be
> foolish. That's why I assumed it was "invested" in shorter term debt.

The mean length of the investment is just under 7 years from the site I
quoted.  BTW, I tried clicking on my own reference, and it didn't work
properly.  You need to go one level up to

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/investheld.html

And then chose OASI time series. Sorry about that.

Dan M.


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