----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Damon Agretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Request for Proposals


> > mig 29   34
>
> Moderately potent and modern aircraft. But only 34...
>
> > su 24    86
>
> Ground attack.
>
> > f-14      247
>
> Good luck getting spares...
>
> > f-7       287
>
> Chinese MiG-21 knock-off
>
> > f-4       472
>
> Good luck getting spares...
>
> > f-5       197
>
> Obsolete (unless its the CHINESE F-5 [MiG-17] knock-off, which is
hopelessly
> obsolete...)
>
> > rf 4e     32
>
> Photo-recon.
>
> > total   1355
>
> What's your source on these? Some of the numbers--especially F-14s--are a
> little suspect. I don't have a listing of how many F-14s were delivered,
but
> most must be in a marginal state by now, I'd think.
>
> > granted most are old a large amount is current production local variants
> of
> > current and old designs. and all are loacted within strinking distance
of
>
> I don't think Iran has a local aeronautical industry, beyond general
> maintenance and spares production.
>
> > iraq. they have a armoured force of between 650-1000 armour units
(ranges
> > depending on location of info) most are russian T-54 - T-72's with a mix
> of
> > almost every nations hardware filling out the numbers.
>
> We already know what happens to T-72s when hit just about anywhere except
> the engine compartment...
>
> > now lets be honest and not cocky like rumsfeld and go with not enough
> troops
> > off the start, and admit that there would be significant us losses if
such
> > an event occured.
>
> If the Iranians tried to contest an alerted US Army in open battle, the
> numerical differences would be minimized by superior US technology,
> equipment, and training. If, however, the Iranians could infiltrate bodies
> of infantry into the cities and engage US troops there, the story would
> indeed be quite different.
>
> Damon.
>
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Ill give you that, as long as you can concede that there would be
significant US casualties.
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