--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gautam wrote: > > I wrote: > So you would disagree with the profile I posted?
Yeah. I'm not sure where you got it, but I thought it was about equivalent to "a liberal is someone who hates the United States." There are some who do, but it's basically a caricature without much in the way of information. Irving Kristol (the original neocon) has written some stuff on what they are. There are very few who would argue in favor of an "American empire" for example, and those who do would mean something very, very different from what most people mean by empire. To some extent you're getting into an intramural dispute here - I, for example, have argued on a several occasions with Steve Rosen (a neocon) about his use and (in my opinion) misuse of the term "empire." > Wolfowitz was the ideological father of PNAC who's > founding members also > included the the vice president, the Secretary of > Defense and the > president's brother. Well, he was _an_ ideological father of it, but so what? Lots of people sign onto things like that. So did John McCain, for example. So did I, for that matter, although I wasn't important enough to actually join. PNAC just isn't that important. It was a think-tank project - not even a fully-fledged think tank - with some interesting ideas. I don't even think it had a staff. As I recall, when Steve Rosen and I talked about me getting a job there the conclusion was that they didn't _have_ much of a staff, so they couldn't hire me because it wasn't possible. It's been a while, so I might be wrong, but that sounds about right. > Of course, but what does that have to do with > anti-Semitism? > > -- > Doug Nothing in and of itself. But the accusation that is made is that the "neo-cons" supported the agenda they did because it was good for Israel, even though it was bad for the United States. Non-Jews presumably have little incentive to betray their country for Israel. So the assertion - cleverly disguised but, in the end, as transparent as the substitution of intelligent design for creationism - is the hoariest of anti-Semitic slurs, that Jews cannot be trusted within a society because their loyalty to Israel is more important than their loyalty to their country. Well, I'm not Jewish, and I thought the PNAC was pretty on the ball. Not entirely, of course, but far more right than wrong. Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Freedom is not free" http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
