On 29 Jul 2007, at 02:45, Nick Arnett wrote:

> On 7/28/07, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jul 2007, at 20:16, Nick Arnett wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/27/07, William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not arguing with that. I'm arguing with the fact that religions
>>>> present their stories as being actually true
>>>
>>>
>>> That is patently untrue.
>>
>> Religions don't present their stories as being literally true?
>
>
> No, they don't.  Some people choose to take all of them literally,  
> but the
> vast majority do not take every religious story literally.  Surely  
> you knew
> that.  Perhaps you are confusing the stereotypes of fundamentalism  
> with
> reality?

The vast majority take many of them literally. A minority take all of  
them literally (including the ones that are obviously intended as  
parables and not to be taken literally) and a minority take none of  
them literally (including the ones that need to be taken literally  
for the religion to have any point.)

>
> Many religions have creeds -- short statements of faith that one  
> chooses to
> accept as true if one is to profess that faith.  Creeds exists  
> specifically
> to identify the key truths in one's faith.  There would be no need  
> for them
> if everybody believed everything is literally true.
>
> My religion's creed says that Jesus died, was buried, descended  
> into Hell
> and rose again after three days.  I believe that's true, but I  
> don't know if
> it is literally true.

You mean it might be true, it might just be a story you like and it  
doesn't matter to you either way? Because most people think it makes  
it quite a bit of difference if Jesus came alive again or just stayed  
dead like everybody else. The difference between Jesus being just  
another guy who said some stuff, take it or leave it, and Jesus being  
the Son of God whose Utterances are of Great Significance to all  
Mankind.

That Difference Maru

-- 
William T Goodall
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I ate the profiteroles, but I did not eat the tiramisu


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