On 29 Jul 2007, at 02:45, Nick Arnett wrote:

>
> Many religions have creeds -- short statements of faith that one  
> chooses to
> accept as true if one is to profess that faith.  Creeds exists  
> specifically
> to identify the key truths in one's faith.  There would be no need  
> for them
> if everybody believed everything is literally true.

The Ecumenical Nicene creed of the majority of the world's Christians.

"We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of Life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen."

It has a supernatural God that makes the world, a supernatural Jesus,  
it has Jesus coming back from death, it has heaven and it has  
resurrection and blah blah blah. If you don't believe all of this  
tosh you are not a Christian.

If you say you believe all of it but not that it's literally true  
then you are using the word 'believe' incorrectly and are deluding  
yourself.


Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead Maru

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