On 29 Jul 2007, at 12:33, Ritu wrote: > William T Goodall wrote: > >> Atheist religions have different defining irrational beliefs. Nazism >> had 'Aryan supremacy', the Greens have 'Nuclear Power is Evil' and so >> on. > > I am sure they do, but I really was talking about the religion I > grew up > with, and if you wish to place it in this classification, then I'd > like to > hear what irrational defining beliefs you find therein.
All religions contain irrational defining beliefs (supernatural or otherwise) else they wouldn't be religions. Accepting some piece[s] of nonsense on faith is part of adopting a religious belief. > >> Most of the argument on this list is about the supernatural >> religions however and those are what I was addressing. > > Oh, but you clearly mentioned the Gita, and by implication the story > surrounding its origin [my favourite story in the world after all, > and I do > love the fact that the book originated as nothing than an > exhortation for a > man to stop being soft, and to kill in battle], and that tradition has > enough supernatural to satisfy any fan of SFF. So if you are placing > Hinduism here, then how do you square that with the other traditions I > mentioned earlier, and your statement that all religions peddle > lies as > truths? > From Wikipedia "The content of the text is a conversation between Krishna and Arjuna taking place on the battlefield of Kurukshetra just prior to the start of a climactic war. Responding to Arjuna's confusion and moral dilemma, Krishna explains to Arjuna his duties as a warrior and Prince and elaborates on a number of different Yogic and Vedantic philosophies, with examples and analogies. This has led to the Gita often being described as a concise guide to Hindu philosophy and also as a practical, self-contained guide to life. During the discourse, Krishna reveals his identity as the Supreme Being Himself (Bhagavan), blessing Arjuna with an awe-inspiring glimpse of His divine absolute form." Clearly steaming with supernatural bullshit. If you just treat it as a nice story then you are rejecting it as religion. Enjoying the stories of Greek mythology isn't the same as believing the ancient Greek religion. Belief Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
