On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

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>
> Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > It's possible to tell people they're wrong and point out opposing
> > views without constantly implying that the other party is in some way
> > trying to be superior.
>
> That is not what I was implying.
>
> > It makes for a much friendlier discussion, and
> > this is a discussion list.
>
> I disagree, obviously.


But it really IS a discussion list.  ;-)


> I think it is unfriendly to impose one's ideals on
> others. I do not consider it unfriendly to point out when other people
> are taking positions that lead to that sort of thing, or to point out
> reasons
> why people should not take such positions. Since I do not support rules
> to stop people trying to make these sorts of rules, pointing it out is one
> of the few ways I can oppose such rules.


Perhaps I'm not the only one who is unsure of what it means to take a
position that leads to imposing one's ideals on others.  Can you give an
example or two?

The examples that come to me are things like urging others to vote for the
candidate I believe to be most qualified or urging people to give to certain
charities that believe do good work.  Or reporting drunk drivers, in which
case I very much wish to see my ideals on said driver. I imagine you mean
some other sort of things, yet I don't really know what they might be.  Is
it an opposition to broad notions of economic and social justice?

Nick
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