----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:38 PM Subject: Re: Brin: the new Bush ad : I don't see any morphing...
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 12:48 AM > Subject: Re: Brin: the new Bush ad : I don't see any morphing... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:11 PM > > Subject: Re: Brin: the new Bush ad : I don't see any morphing... > > > > > > > I talked with my wife about this, gave her the quote; and asked her > > two > > > questions. > > > > > > 1) Is Moore calling for the deaths of Americans? > > > She answered "no" > > > > > > 2) Is he acting as if he were one of the OT prophets calling out the > > doom > > > of America for her sins > > > She answered "probably yes." > > > > > > I realize that I'm the only one on the list that has to accept my > > wife's > > > words as absolutely authentic :-), but I think her independent > > analysis > > > indicates that folks quite familiar with scripture (like seminary > > students > > > and me, I guess) see a lot of precedent for that type of statement. > > > > > > > I think you wife is very close to correct here if not spot on. > > > > I'm very confused. If this dog don't hunt, why is it spot on? > Quite simple really. I disagree with your assessment of what Moore is trying to convey in the quote. I think you and to some greater degree Gautam are taking the most negative and polemic interpretation of a statement that is more ambiguous than definitive (at least in terms of our current discussion). But I also agree with your wife (hope she is doing well!) that Moore is not explicitly calling for American deaths, but is most likely playing the role of doomsayer. (And that is what I got out of that portion of your post) As a note, I don't think that the mere mention of God neccesitates the invoking of blood payment for sin, but is just as likely the hope of forgiveness for making a mistake. The former might skirt the edge of treasonous speech to some small degree, but the latter is fairly reasonable for someone who adamantly opposed the war in Iraq. xponent Plurality Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l