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From: "Gautam Mukunda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: the new Bush ad : I don't see any morphing...
> --- Davd Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Moore did not lie or call for american deaths. That
> > is slander.
>
> Michael Moore, on his website:
> I'm sorry, but the majority of Americans supported
> this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must
> now sacrifice their children until enough blood has
> been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi
> people will forgive us in the end.
>
He has also has been quoted as saying that our soldiers may not forgive us
for what we have done to them for a long time; if ever. I've been trying
to honestly parse the meaning of what he wrote; and I've come to my
conclusion for the following reasons.
He assumes that we are going in to control the oil. There is no sense
arguing over this with me; I know its not the reason, but I think there is
evidence that he actually thinks we are; and are not just saying it. He
thinks we are more than willing to spill blood for oil.
As an exercise, lets take that assumption as a given. If it were true,
then the clearest precedent for what he is saying is a number of biblical
prophets, from Jeremiah, to Micah, to Jesus. Jesus weeping over Jerusalem
is one of the clearest examples of the dual nature of this. Jesus truly
loved Jerusalem and its people, but knew that their actions would bring
destruction down upon it.
The prophets didn't hate Israel and Judea; they hated what they did. The
sons and daughters paid for the sins of the parents.
I talked with my wife about this, gave her the quote; and asked her two
questions.
1) Is Moore calling for the deaths of Americans?
She answered "no"
2) Is he acting as if he were one of the OT prophets calling out the doom
of America for her sins
She answered "probably yes."
I realize that I'm the only one on the list that has to accept my wife's
words as absolutely authentic :-), but I think her independent analysis
indicates that folks quite familiar with scripture (like seminary students
and me, I guess) see a lot of precedent for that type of statement.
Dan M.
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