Back at tour 1 I spoke to several people on this matter, and the idea of a C
tour was one mentioned. I think its a great idea as it provides teams lower
in the rankings somthing meaningful to play for in terms of
promotion/relegation between B and C, as opposed to pretty much meaningless
games for 15/16/17/18th. Limit each of the A, B and C tours to 16 teams,
and if no venues large enough to host all are availiable, then why not put
the A and C tours at one venue (allowing less experinced players the chance
of seeing top quality ultimate), and the womens and B tour at another, or
any combination of A, B, C and womens that satisfies people. OF course, the
ctual logistics of this, scheduling, pitch time, bids and equipment is
somthing else, and im not touching that one with a barge pole.
From: "george moody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: britdisc@near.me.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [BD] the tour - discuss
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 16:54:22 +0100
I thought people had been saying Tour 4 was the smallest for years.
Why then the desire to further split it? Is it so hard to travel to
four tournaments a year? I'm sure B tour players want to play people
of a similar level from all over the country just as much as the A
tour does.
Peedo - BU
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From: Daniel Dui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: britdisc@near.me.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [BD] the tour - discuss
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:18:33 -0700 (PDT)
>I think that more than two regions (north/south) does
>not make a lot of sense.
>
>If tour venues are well chosen and events are well
>distributed in the calendar, teams will have time to
>arrange convenient and cheap transport and
>accommodation.
>
>I think that this year Birmingham has been the best
>event:
>
>- Good fields
>- Cheap accommodation (onsite camping and proper beds
>in the university residences for 20 pounds per night)
>- Location. From most places in the UK you can take a
>train or drive to Birmingham.
>
>-d
>
>--- Adam Batchelor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This is a small island with a great ultimate
> > comunity. There is no need to
> > seperate regions as this will seperate the comunity
> > and the distances are
> > not very large when taken in the grand scheme of
> > things!
> > Ad
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon McCaldin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <britdisc@near.me.uk>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [BD] the tour - discuss
> >
> >
> > > Surely some regional events and national events
> > can be accommodated?
> > >
> > > For example, 3 or 4 regional events and then an
> > event similar to the
> > > current Nationals - where the top regional teams
> > qualify.
> > >
> > > I'd envisage maybe a 3/4/5 region setup (South
> > East/West, Midlands,
> > > North/Scotland), so events would aim to have
> > around 16 teams in each
> > > (assumes more 2nd teams as travelling time would
> > be much reduced).
> > > However, I'd imagine the top teams wouldn't like
> > this and would prefer a
> > > regular national top team event (say 8-12 teams).
> > But this could run
> > > along side (i.e. at the same venue) one of the
> > regional events each time,
> > > that way each region will have one event where
> > they get to see the top
> > > national teams battle it out.
> > >
> > > Just a couple of thoughts...
> > >
> > > Muppet
> > > (EMO)
> > >
> > >>>> Mike Tonge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 17/08/2005 14:42:12 >>>
> > > If you split the B tour into a North and South
> > then it is no longer able
> > > to rank teams effectivily over the whole of the
> > UK.
> > >
> > > The idea of getting more teams to enter
> > tournaments should surely be
> > > sorted out through getting people to run more
> > winter leagues and local
> > > tournaments.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > ALASTAIR FINDLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ALASTAIR FINDLAY wrote:Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005
> > 13:36:08 +0100 (BST)
> > > From: ALASTAIR FINDLAY
> > > Subject: Re: [BD] the tour - discuss
> > > To: Lewis Glover
> > >
> > > I think that we should try and introduce some form
> > of regionalisation. If
> > > teams didn't have to travel so far then we would
> > be more likely to get
> > > more teams entering tournaments all throughout the
> > year. Maybe keep the A
> > > tour as it is, or reduce it to 12 teams and then
> > have a B-Tour North and
> > > South.
> > >
> > > If we want to make Ultimate more popular generally
> > we have to make it
> > > easier to play. At the moment it is largeley
> > reserved fpr those that live
> > > and breathe Ultimate and nothing else.
> > >
> > > Lewis Glover wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > What do people think about only two teams up and
> > down between A + B tours.
> > >
> > >>From a unbiased perspective I feel that 3 teams
> > should up / down.
> > >
> > > Reasoning: It makes the 13 v 14 game in the A tour
> > and the 3 v 4 game in
> > > the
> > > B tour mean alot more.
> > >
> > > I also believe that the 1st place team at tour B
> > should get the same
> > > number
> > > of points as the highest finishing relegated team
> > (currently 15th, if
> > > three
> > > relegated it would be 14th) and the 2nd place team
> > should get the same as
> > > the second highest relegated team (currently 16th
> > (my system - 15th) etc
> > >
> > > And also...what do people think of the tour system
> > as it stands....lets
> > > have
> > > a conversation on BD now!! not in March 2006!!
> > when it's too late!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Lewis
> > >
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