It's the evolution of ultimate! Is it possible the sport will finally become
two seperate entities where before it has been the craziest schizophrenic best
friend I've ever had? On some days it's the peak of fun, friendship, parties
and hangovers and the following weekend it's screaming at you to run until your
feet resemble a lepers and your muscles burn like hell. Admittedly it's great
fun balancing the desire to win with calling yourself out at 16-16, certainly
no other sports dare trust human nature alone. Spirit of the game is both the
greatest thing about Ultimate and the biggest pick to it becoming universally
accepted and becoming the massively commercialised, marketed, popular spectator
sport next to Football, American Football, Basketball, Rugby, Baseball...and
you know what? If it was like any of those I'd go and find another sport, or
join the masses still playing the original form of Ultimate with SOTG. Having
said that, I would love to experience a refereed format of the game. It doesn't
sound too bad not having to watch for travels while stalling, maintaining disc
space and ultimately trying to get your hand in the way of your opponents
released disc. Let someone else do the rules and just focus on the throwers
movements ready to get the hand-block-catch-callahan. Not to mention the
impartial view of whether or not the foot was on the line or if the disc was
up. What do we value more, playing a sport involving a disc to the best of our
abilities or playing Ultimate? My opinion, let it evolve into the two distinct
sports it wants to be, everyone will still be able to play both forms
seperately and when they do they will know by which rules they are playing. 'If
you want to truly understand something, try to change it' - kurt Lewin.
David G> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:30:50 +0000> From: [email protected]>
To: [email protected]; > Subject: Re: [BD] Major League Ultimate 2009> >
of course thats why twenty20 was introduced, to make it more marketable, but>
the game still changed massively, im thinking compared to test cricket. i>
think it depends on what you class as the "essence" of ultimate (although i> do
still think the "essence" can change over time). is it the spirit or is> it
that "ultimate is a fast moving game played with a flying disc" and with>
endzones for goals. in which case one could say the essence hasnt changed,> but
the application has.> either way, its worth a shot i guess.> steve> > > > > On
Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Andrew Godber <[email protected]>wrote:> >
> Good counter argument, but the main thing is that it changes the spirit of> >
the game, i.e. the core essence. Twenty20 doesn't do that, it just makes a> >
5-day game more marketable.> >> > Can't believe I am backing Oscar up.> >> >
________________________________> >> > From: [email protected] on
behalf of Steve Eldon Kerr> > Sent: Mon 12/01/2009 23:16> > To: David Oxendale;
[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [BD] Major League Ultimate 2009> >> >> >> >
It can be called ultimate in the same way 20twenty cricket is called> >
cricket, despite having several very major differences from test cricket,> >
yet it has gone on to be very successful and is a valid version of the> >
game.> > i see no harm in giving it a go and seeing what happens, to me it
sounds a> > great idea, particularly to try out rule changes. while the
self-refereeing> > nature may be the most controversial change, i do think
others such as> > changing the rules on pick and time between points may be
worth trying.> > steve> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM,
David Oxendale> > <[email protected]>wrote:> >> > > Sorry, how can you
have a competition called Major League ULTIMATE and> > > then not play Ultimate
at the competition? A lot of thought has been> > > put into the rules of
Ultimate and, in particular, Spirit Of The Game> > > and it's self-refereeing
nature. By changing the rules, you are> > > changing the sport and therefore
are not playing Ultimate.> > > Oscar> > > FlyghtClub> > > (the views expressed
in this e.mail are mine and not necessarily those> > > of my team-mates. I
really hope they are though)> > >> > > On 12/01/2009, MLU UK
<[email protected]> wrote:> > > > British Ultimate,> > > >> > > >> > > >
We are currently in the process of organising a UK Major League> > Ultimate> >
> > tournament, based on the idea tried out in the US in 2006.> > > >> > > >
The tournament will consist of five all-star regional teams, based on> > the> >
> > currently existing boundaries of UK University Ultimate (namely,> > >
South-West,> > > > South-East, Midlands, North and Scotland).> > > >> > > >
Teams will comprise of a combination of the top University players from> > >
each> > > > region, and the best open players also from that region. Guidelines
and> > > > restrictions on this format will follow.> > > >> > > >
Provisionally, the tournament will be held in Manchester on the 19th> > and> >
> 20> > > > th of April this year, however this is subject to change. Exact
details> > > will> > > > be released as soon as they are confirmed.> > > >> > >
>> > > > For those of you who are not aware, under MLU rules the game is> >
refereed> > > and> > > > has a separate rule-set from Ultimate, the full
version of which will> > be> > > > provided to teams prior to the tournament,
with plenty of time to get> > to> > > > grips with them. We have been in
contact with Ben Wiggins (founder of> > > > www.thehuddle.org) and Ian
McClellan (TD of the inaugural MLU> > > tournament)> > > > concerning the exact
rules and any amendments they would suggest based> > on> > > > having played
under them in 2006.> > > > Referees will have received several weeks of
training prior to the> > > > tournament.> > > >> > > >> > > > Each player will
receive a shirt as part of the player fee, featuring> > the> > > > yet-to-be
finalised MLU:UK logo, the name of your region, and number.> > > >> > > >> > >
>> > > > For an introduction to the rule amendments, the main changes can be> >
seen> > > on> > > > the rec.sport.disc post about the US event here:> > > >> >
>> >
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.sport.disc/2006-06/msg01409.html>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > And the Ultivillage DVD of the U.S. MLU from
2006 can be ordered here:> > > >> > >> >
http://www.ultivillage.com/index.php/DVD-Trailers/2006-major-league-ultimate-mlu-dvd-trailer>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Please note, this is not an attempt to
change the rules of Ultimate, it> > > is> > > > firstly a chance to try out
these alternative rules first hand, and> > > secondly> > > > a chance to prove
the strength of your region at a new elite-level> > > > tournament in the UK.>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Yours,> > > >> > > >> > > > The MLU:UK team> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > P.S. please direct inquiries to [email protected]> >
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