My concern is that the top Uni players that this intends to involve in April 
will likely have been preparing for the club season (some maybe even World 
Games on top of that), and would only be just out the back of Student Nats. Do 
they have the time and desire to learn a whole new set of playing rules for 
this alongside those and a degree? Because if the top Uni players don't play 
then it becomes much less of an exhibition and much more of a chumparound. Or 
it turns into Emo v Chevy v Fusion v London v The West.

Edd




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From: Paul Hurt <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 January, 2009 3:44:28
Subject: Re: [BD] Major League Ultimate 2009

Great quote on the end there... must remember that.

As for making Ultimate "accepted" I agree that the self-officiated  
nature of the game is an obstacle. But that could be fixed with:

1) a few officials with whistles timing things
2) a scoreboard that spectators CAN ACTUALLY SEE CLEARLY
3) playing to time
4) banning subs from walking up and down the sideline  - what other  
team sport is there where non-playing team members can and regularly  
do stand on the playing field?

No need to actually remove the players' responsibility for making  
calls. In fact, get a sound guy in there with a boom mic so that the  
spectators can hear the discussion!

They tried some of this at World Games a few years ago, and it seemed  
to work.

Paul



On 13 Jan 2009, at 00:35, David Greenberg wrote:

>
>
> Spirit of the game is both the greatest thing about Ultimate and the  
> biggest pick to it becoming universally accepted and becoming the  
> massively commercialised, marketed, popular spectator sport next to  
> Football, American Football, Basketball, Rugby, Baseball...and you  
> know what? If it was like any of those I'd go and find another  
> sport, or join the masses still playing the original form of  
> Ultimate with SOTG. Having said that, I would love to experience a  
> refereed format of the game. It doesn't sound too bad not having to  
> watch for travels while stalling, maintaining disc space and  
> ultimately trying to get your hand in the way of your opponents  
> released disc. Let someone else do the rules and just focus on the  
> throwers movements ready to get the hand-block-catch-callahan. Not  
> to mention the impartial view of whether or not the foot was on the  
> line or if the disc was up. What do we value more, playing a sport  
> involving a disc to the best of our abilities or playing Ultimate?  
> My opinion, let it evolve into the two distinct sports it wants to  
> be, everyone will still be able to play both forms seperately and  
> when they do they will know by which rules they are playing. 'If you  
> want to truly understand something, try to change it' - kurt Lewin.


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