of course thats why twenty20 was introduced, to make it more marketable, but the game still changed massively, im thinking compared to test cricket. i think it depends on what you class as the "essence" of ultimate (although i do still think the "essence" can change over time). is it the spirit or is it that "ultimate is a fast moving game played with a flying disc" and with endzones for goals. in which case one could say the essence hasnt changed, but the application has. either way, its worth a shot i guess. steve
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Andrew Godber <[email protected]>wrote: > Good counter argument, but the main thing is that it changes the spirit of > the game, i.e. the core essence. Twenty20 doesn't do that, it just makes a > 5-day game more marketable. > > Can't believe I am backing Oscar up. > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] on behalf of Steve Eldon Kerr > Sent: Mon 12/01/2009 23:16 > To: David Oxendale; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BD] Major League Ultimate 2009 > > > > It can be called ultimate in the same way 20twenty cricket is called > cricket, despite having several very major differences from test cricket, > yet it has gone on to be very successful and is a valid version of the > game. > i see no harm in giving it a go and seeing what happens, to me it sounds a > great idea, particularly to try out rule changes. while the self-refereeing > nature may be the most controversial change, i do think others such as > changing the rules on pick and time between points may be worth trying. > steve > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM, David Oxendale > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Sorry, how can you have a competition called Major League ULTIMATE and > > then not play Ultimate at the competition? A lot of thought has been > > put into the rules of Ultimate and, in particular, Spirit Of The Game > > and it's self-refereeing nature. By changing the rules, you are > > changing the sport and therefore are not playing Ultimate. > > Oscar > > FlyghtClub > > (the views expressed in this e.mail are mine and not necessarily those > > of my team-mates. I really hope they are though) > > > > On 12/01/2009, MLU UK <[email protected]> wrote: > > > British Ultimate, > > > > > > > > > We are currently in the process of organising a UK Major League > Ultimate > > > tournament, based on the idea tried out in the US in 2006. > > > > > > The tournament will consist of five all-star regional teams, based on > the > > > currently existing boundaries of UK University Ultimate (namely, > > South-West, > > > South-East, Midlands, North and Scotland). > > > > > > Teams will comprise of a combination of the top University players from > > each > > > region, and the best open players also from that region. Guidelines and > > > restrictions on this format will follow. > > > > > > Provisionally, the tournament will be held in Manchester on the 19th > and > > 20 > > > th of April this year, however this is subject to change. Exact details > > will > > > be released as soon as they are confirmed. > > > > > > > > > For those of you who are not aware, under MLU rules the game is > refereed > > and > > > has a separate rule-set from Ultimate, the full version of which will > be > > > provided to teams prior to the tournament, with plenty of time to get > to > > > grips with them. We have been in contact with Ben Wiggins (founder of > > > www.thehuddle.org) and Ian McClellan (TD of the inaugural MLU > > tournament) > > > concerning the exact rules and any amendments they would suggest based > on > > > having played under them in 2006. > > > Referees will have received several weeks of training prior to the > > > tournament. > > > > > > > > > Each player will receive a shirt as part of the player fee, featuring > the > > > yet-to-be finalised MLU:UK logo, the name of your region, and number. > > > > > > > > > > > > For an introduction to the rule amendments, the main changes can be > seen > > on > > > the rec.sport.disc post about the US event here: > > > > > > http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.sport.disc/2006-06/msg01409.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the Ultivillage DVD of the U.S. MLU from 2006 can be ordered here: > > > > > > http://www.ultivillage.com/index.php/DVD-Trailers/2006-major-league-ultimate-mlu-dvd-trailer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note, this is not an attempt to change the rules of Ultimate, it > > is > > > firstly a chance to try out these alternative rules first hand, and > > secondly > > > a chance to prove the strength of your region at a new elite-level > > > tournament in the UK. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > > The MLU:UK team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. please direct inquiries to [email protected] > > > __________________________________________________ > > > BritDisc mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > > > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > The e.mail of the species is more deadly than the mail. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > BritDisc mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Electronic mail messages entering and leaving Arup business > systems are scanned for acceptability of content and viruses > > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
