Since this discussion is happening on a public forum I would just like to state very clearly that:
- the membership renewal date is 30th Sept / 1st October (not end of Nov as implied in the email below) - Ultimatum has NOT been printed yet. For a start we don't know how many to print because we use the membership status and address data to work that out in order to avoid spending money on copies that will not be used Thanks Si Si Hill, UK Ultimate [email protected] Tel: 0844 8045949 Skype: sihill22 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simon Barlow Sent: 30 November 2012 15:00 To: Chris White Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BD] Ultimatum 2012 Aussie, Britdisc is totally the right place to air and ask these questions!! Where else the forums on the UKUA site or Facebook where not all read the updates. As still some don't use Facebook still, or not signed up to the pages or regularly access them. Britdisc has always been a good place to air grievances and Si will respond in good time I'm sure!! And your right I'm always thought out with my responses, well sometimes at least ;-) Your Infact wrong we are not going to a rolling 12 month membership actually the opposite. It's now going to be a situation where the membership has a cut off date of the End of November, whenever you purchase one be that just for tour in may or mixed in march etc. I can see why its being changed and the date being end of november, as cutting down on admin etc being a valid one for the season and obviously due to the end of outdoor and the start of Indoor. I can see the idea for this but unfortunately don't agree so entitled too my opinion!! I must admit to not really reading the reasons for it till today, and therefore am totally late in bringing this up, but still thought I would as the Ultimatum issue is part of the Full Membership which I paid for in 2012, and I also didn't know I could have pro rata paid for my membership being for only 6 months and got it for half this last year but hey ho. Should all those that paid for their membership in 2012 get a copy of Ultimatum, well yes as that was the agreement from the sign up page of the UKUA website when paying as was insurance etc. For the UKUA to now change this is wrong. Or to not send out the 2012 issue to someone who had paid to be a member of their organisation in 2012. As presume the cost of the issue was included in the cost of membership. Have they delayed sending it out till after the payment window to get people to sign up, then I would say yes!! sounds to me like its printed so why not send it out before 30th November whilst all 2012's memberships ate still current?? And not penalise anyone who doesn't sign up now and comes into the sport or rejoins after this date next year. Wayne just made a point about subscriptions, if you sign up to any subscription you get the next available edition, which in mine and others cases was and is the 2012 Ultimatum!! Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and if want a laugh at my movember tash have a look here ;-) http://mobro.co/si.barlow Kind regards Simon Barlow 0845 2699147 07971 903006 On 30 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Chris White <[email protected]> wrote: > Si, > > I normally appreciate your rants because they're well thought through, > fairly well informed & can be reasonably expected to need to be aired > where they are. You don't seem to have thought this one through like > you normally do. > > UKU *is* switching to rolling 12 month membership which is why we're > in this situation. > > Have you tried contacting Si or someone involved in the publication of > Ultimatum directly & not had any helpful responses? Because that would > seem the mature response if you've got a complaint. Airing your dirty > laundry on a public forum not actually related to the organisation > you're complaining about doesn't seem like the appropriate response to > having a query. > > This is at least the third time we've had updates about Ultimatum, > this year's subs & the changes to the fee structure. Why wait till > now? > > I'm curious what the response will be from the UKU / Ultimatum team, > because you do raise a good point. Will those players who paid for > 2012 receive an Ultimatum for 2012 if they haven't renewed yet? > Shouldn't Ultimatum 2012 go to people who paid for 2012? > > Still, you could just pay for next season now & it wouldn't be an issue... > > C > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Simon Barlow <[email protected]> wrote: >> So people who paid for membership in 2012 don't get 2012's Ultimatum, so do they get 2011's? As I joined before tour this year, and didn't get one from last year sent to me. >> >> Personally will be p****d off that a person who joins now for next season gets this years ultimatum and if I don't dip my hand in my pocket today and wait till next year don't get one even though paid for this years membership, and presumed to be getting one as was part of the membership of the UKUA!! Crazy!! >> >> Think this needs sorting out so those that have already paid for 2012's membership get their copy!! >> >> Why can't the UKUA have a rolling twelve month membership like other national organisations? So if sign up in may it lasts till may the following year, a batch email to those whos is to run out is automatically sent out one month before membership runs out easy peasy!! >> >> Kind regards >> Simon Barlow >> 0845 2699147 >> 07971 903006 >> >> On 30 Nov 2012, at 12:00, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Send BritDisc mailing list submissions to [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of BritDisc digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. UKU membership for Ultimatum (Si Hill, UK Ultimate) >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:31:38 -0000 >>> From: "Si Hill, UK Ultimate" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]>, "'uniultimate'" >>> <[email protected]>, "'Junior ultimate yahoo group'" >>> <[email protected]>, "'london league Elist'" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [BD] UKU membership for Ultimatum >>> Message-ID: <01b101cdce4f$019199f0$04b4cdd0$@[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> Tomorrow is the last day to renew your membership and check your >>> contact details on the uku website are up to date and correct. >>> >>> http://www.ukultimate.com/ultimatum >>> >>> >>> >>> You need to have current FULL or FULL UNI/U18 membership to be >>> eligible to receive Ultimatum. >>> >>> http://www.ukultimate.com/join >>> >>> >>> >>> OR - you can have an Ultimatum subscription alongside Basic >>> membership - or even without any membership. >>> >>> http://www.ukultimate.com/product/ultimatum_membership >>> >>> >>> >>> Remember there is an option to upgrade Basic membership to Full >>> membership on this page: >>> >>> http://www.ukultimate.com/join >>> >>> >>> >>> BUT STILL PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID FOR ULTIMATUM WON'T GET IT... >>> >>> >>> >>> Please check that the postal address in your UKU user account is up >>> to date and accurate. >>> >>> >>> >>> This page: http://www.ukultimate.com/user (you need to be logged in) >>> will show your membership status, and also show you the postal >>> address that we will use to send your Ultimatum. Remember to make >>> sure that you have included your HOUSE NUMBER, TOWN/CITY and POSTCODE. >>> >>> >>> >>> If your membership status is described as "authenticated user" then >>> your membership has expired and you need to renew it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> Si >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ps - remember there is nothing to be gained by renewing your >>> membership in March or May when the outdoor season starts because it >>> will still expire on 30th September 2013. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Si Hill, UK Ultimate >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >>> >>> Tel: 0844 8045949 >>> >>> Mob: 07802 311298 >>> >>> Skype: sihill22 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BritDisc mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >>> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed >>> >>> >>> >>> End of BritDisc Digest, Vol 110, Issue 26 >>> ***************************************** >> >> __________________________________________________ >> BritDisc mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >> Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed > > > > -- > Aussie __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
