On Monday 08 November 2004 15:40, Stede Troisi wrote:
> > What part of my response do you regard as "overly
> > smart
> > and philosophical"?
> >
> > You claimed that someone was "dead wrong",
> > apparently
> > meaning that money was a source of happiness in and
> > of
> > itself. Is that what you meant, or not?
>
> No! I don't care about the philisophical crap that you
> or anyone else dishes on this site.
So your "dead wrong" claim was wrong, or meaningless,
or both, and didn't progress any discussion?
> People like you who get all upset can debate that to your
> hearts content.
I'm not upset. Why do you think I'm upset?
> Money is important (AKA - a job)
Other things are important, too. Some are important
enough that one can take less money to obtain them.
I didn't see anyone claiming that money wasn't
"important" - just that it wasn't *supremely* important.
And if you job gives you loadsa money and eats your
heart, you lose.
> Ignoring offshoring or accepting working for less (as
> Ron Jeffries post mentioned) seems non-XP to me.
> Nothing more or less.
It doesn't seem non-XP to me; what piece of XPness do
you think it violates? I'd certainly trade money off
against things like:
* a pleasant working environment
* a less stressful commute
* living in a preferred country
* sane IP strategy
> > You used an unloaded (and unloadable) if to say that
> > things could be different. Well, they could. So
> > what?
>
> You are on another planet. Stop the philisophical
> stuff! I was simply saying that money is important.
If that's what you want to say, say it - then you don't
entangle your point with the plausibility (or otherwise)
of hypotheticals.
> There will be a level that most programmers will
> simply not be able to work as a programmer for a
> living. Period. Nothing more, nothing less.
Do you mean, "if programming doesn't pay enough, some
people won't be able to afford to be programmers"?
> I would
> hope that doesn't happen but if we simply accept it
> then I guess America will be another Allentown for
> programmers.
Your "Allentown" reference is opaque to me, I'm afraid.
--
Chris "electric hedgehog" Dollin
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