well said

On 24 August 2010 15:29, Jenna Fox <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah Peter. Don't worry about it. He said he'd spend five years working on 
> bringing coding to kids, and by my best approximation, he did that. Now he's 
> done. He has a family, a life, and seems he probably has children too. The 
> intensity with which he worked on ruby projects was never sustainable. I 
> expect his priorities simply shifted to other things.
>
> Really though, he's just a man. A man who brought us many great things, sure, 
> but still a man. The important thing is that we take note of the wonderment 
> created in his wake, and continue to create things of equivalent or greater 
> value. It's our job to push ruby forward now.
>
> It's our job to push computing forward.
>
> —
> Jenna
>
> On 24/08/2010, at 10:32 PM, Peter Retief wrote:
>
>> I hope _why is OK, I don't care if he wants to change his career but
>> it would be nice if I were to know that nothing bad happened to him
>> (Gone camping?)
>> Give us a sign :)
>>
>> On 24 August 2010 14:29, Dave Everitt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> @Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their own eBay
>>> competitors' :-)
>>>
>>>>> 2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,
>>>>
>>>> Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure ruby
>>>> hacks to be offputting at first? I did.
>>>
>>> I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to make
>>> things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby and CSS :-)
>>>
>>>>> 3. can also handle serious web development,
>>>>
>>>> Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark side.
>>>
>>> I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has firm
>>> ethics.
>>>
>>>>> 4. doesn't take itself too seriously.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion against
>>>> serious business still seems strong. ^_^
>>>
>>> I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate (cartoon)
>>> foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes, _Why's surreal
>>> humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although *none* of the 7
>>> students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at all, although one did
>>> buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...
>>>
>>>>> The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet to
>>>>> deploy anything public! But that's anther post.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing-an-App
>>>> :)
>>>
>>> Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our VPS
>>> accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I might also
>>> have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra on it, worked
>>> fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping project. Unless someone
>>> else writes it up first.
>>>
>>>> Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to fill in
>>>> the blanks?
>>>
>>> @Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path. BTW
>>> Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the framework of
>>> choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose-intolerant vegetarians)...
>>>
>>> Dave E.
>>>
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