Folks,
It appears that I have failed to communicate. 

Batteries + or Batteries Plus is a chain of stores that sell mostly batteries.  
Only one occasion have they failed to locate a replacement battery for me. The 
link to their store locator for Michigan is: 
http://www.batteriesplus.com/store_locator/state/MI.aspx
Batteries Plus has (or can order) the battery with the proper tabs (properly 
configured) already spot welded and ready to install.

Spot welded tabs cannot be removed with a soldering iron.  The replacement part 
should look the same as the failed one and fit precisely. If your are a novice 
to the techniques of component level printed circuit board repair, there are 
primers available on the web and library for improving your knowledge factors 
base. One such is located at: 
http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/echeeve1/Ref/Solder/Soldering.html

The educational and experience basis for my advice -- (which is probably worth 
what you paid for it ) -- is:
48 years of component level installation and repair on a wide variety of 
equipment.  This equipment has included: gun and guided missile firing solution 
computers (mechanical analog, electro-mechanical analog, DC analog and 
digital), gun and guided missile acquisition, tracking and guidance pulse 
doppler and continuous wave radars, air search 3-D radars (range, bearing and 
azimuth), as well as, light marine electronic repair (Raymarine is one of the 
brands).  I am a degreed professional with 22 Navy general and equipment 
specific electronic schools successfully completed.  Seven years instructing 
degreed engineers, shipyard workers and Navy (foreign and domestic) technicians 
on weapon systems alignment, operation and maintenance.

All the above and $4 will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks.  My point is 
that I am not a shade tree mechanic whose experience is limited to trial and 
error knowledge. Lurking on this list for several years has given me the 
impression that the IQ of our average member is considerably higher than the 
general population.  The experience levels are wide ranging and the 
achievements of some of our members are truly remarkable.  Phil and Judy B 
impress me as 2 of our community's greatest assets.


Happy T-day everyone.

Earl Burgess s/v Nautidog #3118




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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:22:10 PM
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery

Thanks to all for the spirited(we're back to rum again) debate about my 
battery problem.  While I am a handy guy, with proper tools, I've never 
done this before and it sounds dangerous on several levels, both to me and the 
unit.  It is lithium ion and I am going to take it to a local electronics 
store first for a quote, then maybe bite the bullet and send it to 
Raymarine.  They quoted $159!!
 
Bill Walker
 
In a message dated 11/26/2008 4:25:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You certainly would have like it  not to be soldered. Sometimes a battery 
manufacturer will offer a version of  the battery with solder tabs spot welded 
to the battery. Sometimes they will  spot weld a wire directly to the battery 
and that wire gets soldered at the  other end.
 
Can a novice re-solder this  battery? I'd say the answer is a resounding NO!
 
There are just too many easy ways  to blow-up a lithium ion battery. Can a 
local electronics repair shop do the  job? Yes, but I would stand anywhere 
close by while it is done just in case  they came up short on skills.
 
Soldering a printed circuit board  is double yikes unless you have the proper 
training and equipment. Then it’s  only challenging. 
 
Phil  Agur                    s/vWing  Tip 
Secretary,                    C270 LE  #184
IC27/270A                    MMSI 366901790 
www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809
-----Original Message-----
From:  [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  Behalf Of 
Port Huron Freecycle
Sent: Wednesday, November 26,  2008 12:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re:  catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery
 
Hey Phil:
 
    Wouldn't you want to crimp this  battery on too? Solder is 
BAD.....isn't the circuit board  soldered.....YIKES!!!
 
 
Steve Bayless
#3491 "Liebchen"
Port Huron, 
MI




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