Earl,
Yes it appears you're advice was spot on and I (we) failed to realize it was specific to Bill's initial question. Phil Agur <http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip Secretary, C270 LE #184 IC27/270A MMSI 366901790 www.catalina27.org <http://www.catalina27.org/> Vessel Doc# 1039809 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of el sailor Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery Folks, It appears that I have failed to communicate. Batteries + or Batteries Plus is a chain of stores that sell mostly batteries. Only one occasion have they failed to locate a replacement battery for me. The link to their store locator for Michigan is: http://www.batteriesplus.com/store_locator/state/MI.aspx Batteries Plus has (or can order) the battery with the proper tabs (properly configured) already spot welded and ready to install. Spot welded tabs cannot be removed with a soldering iron. The replacement part should look the same as the failed one and fit precisely. If your are a novice to the techniques of component level printed circuit board repair, there are primers available on the web and library for improving your knowledge factors base. One such is located at: http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/echeeve1/Ref/Solder/Soldering.html The educational and experience basis for my advice -- (which is probably worth what you paid for it <http://mail.yimg.com/a/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif> ) -- is: 48 years of component level installation and repair on a wide variety of equipment. This equipment has included: gun and guided missile firing solution computers (mechanical analog, electro-mechanical analog, DC analog and digital), gun and guided missile acquisition, tracking and guidance pulse doppler and continuous wave radars, air search 3-D radars (range, bearing and azimuth), as well as, light marine electronic repair (Raymarine is one of the brands). I am a degreed professional with 22 Navy general and equipment specific electronic schools successfully completed. Seven years instructing degreed engineers, shipyard workers and Navy (foreign and domestic) technicians on weapon systems alignment, operation and maintenance. All the above and $4 will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks. My point is that I am not a shade tree mechanic whose experience is limited to trial and error knowledge. Lurking on this list for several years has given me the impression that the IQ of our average member is considerably higher than the general population. The experience levels are wide ranging and the achievements of some of our members are truly remarkable. Phil and Judy B impress me as 2 of our community's greatest assets. Happy T-day everyone. Earl Burgess s/v Nautidog #3118 _____ From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:22:10 PM Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery Thanks to all for the spirited(we're back to rum again) debate about my battery problem. While I am a handy guy, with proper tools, I've never done this before and it sounds dangerous on several levels, both to me and the unit. It is lithium ion and I am going to take it to a local electronics store first for a quote, then maybe bite the bullet and send it to Raymarine. They quoted $159!! Bill Walker In a message dated 11/26/2008 4:25:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You certainly would have like it not to be soldered. Sometimes a battery manufacturer will offer a version of the battery with solder tabs spot welded to the battery. Sometimes they will spot weld a wire directly to the battery and that wire gets soldered at the other end. Can a novice re-solder this battery? I'd say the answer is a resounding NO! There are just too many easy ways to blow-up a lithium ion battery. Can a local electronics repair shop do the job? Yes, but I would stand anywhere close by while it is done just in case they came up short on skills. Soldering a printed circuit board is double yikes unless you have the proper training and equipment. Then it?s only challenging. Phil Agur <http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip Secretary, C270 LE #184 IC27/270A MMSI 366901790 www.catalina27.org <http://www.catalina27.org/> Vessel Doc# 1039809 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Port Huron Freecycle Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery Hey Phil: Wouldn't you want to crimp this battery on too? Solder is BAD.....isn't the circuit board soldered.....YIKES!!! Steve Bayless #3491 "Liebchen" Port Huron, MI _____ Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002> .

