Just wait till we get into lead/tin vs RoHS solder issues.

Art

2008/11/27 Phil Agur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Earl,
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> Yes it appears you're advice was spot on and I (we) failed to realize it
> was specific to Bill's initial question.
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> *Phil Agur*                    *s/v** Wing 
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *el sailor
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:48 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery
>
>
>
> Folks,
> It appears that I have failed to communicate.
>
> Batteries + or Batteries Plus is a chain of stores that sell mostly
> batteries.  Only one occasion have they failed to locate a replacement
> battery for me. The link to their store locator for Michigan is:
> http://www.batteriesplus.com/store_locator/state/MI.aspx
> Batteries Plus has (or can order) the battery with the proper tabs
> (properly configured) already spot welded and ready to install.
>
> Spot welded tabs *cannot* be removed with a soldering iron.  The
> replacement part should look the same as the failed one and fit precisely.
> If your are a novice to the techniques of component level printed circuit
> board repair, there are primers available on the web and library for
> improving your knowledge factors base. One such is located at:
> http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/echeeve1/Ref/Solder/Soldering.html
>
> The educational and experience basis for my advice -- (which is probably
> worth what you paid for it ) -- is:
> 48 years of component level installation and repair on a wide variety of
> equipment.  This equipment has included: gun and guided missile firing
> solution computers (mechanical analog, electro-mechanical analog, DC analog
> and digital), gun and guided missile acquisition, tracking and guidance
> pulse doppler and continuous wave radars, air search 3-D radars (range,
> bearing and azimuth), as well as, light marine electronic repair (Raymarine
> is one of the brands).  I am a degreed professional with 22 Navy general and
> equipment specific electronic schools successfully completed.  Seven years
> instructing degreed engineers, shipyard workers and Navy (foreign and
> domestic) technicians on weapon systems alignment, operation and
> maintenance.
>
> All the above and $4 will get me a cup of coffee at Starbucks.  My point is
> that I am not a shade tree mechanic whose experience is limited to trial and
> error knowledge. Lurking on this list for several years has given me the
> impression that the IQ of our average member is considerably higher than the
> general population.  The experience levels are wide ranging and the
> achievements of some of our members are truly remarkable.  Phil and Judy B
> impress me as 2 of our community's greatest assets.
>
>
> Happy T-day everyone.
>
> Earl Burgess s/v *Nautidog #3118*
>
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> *From:* "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:22:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery
>
>
>  Thanks to all for the spirited(we're back to rum again) debate about my
> battery problem.  While I am a handy guy, with proper tools, I've never done
> this before and it sounds dangerous on several levels, both to me and the
> unit.  It is lithium ion and I am going to take it to a local electronics
> store first for a quote, then maybe bite the bullet and send it to
> Raymarine.  They quoted $159!!
>
>
>
> Bill Walker
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>
>
> In a message dated 11/26/2008 4:25:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>  You certainly would have like it not to be soldered. Sometimes a battery
> manufacturer will offer a version of the battery with solder tabs spot
> welded to the battery. Sometimes they will spot weld a wire directly to the
> battery and that wire gets soldered at the other end.
>
>
>
> Can a novice re-solder this battery? I'd say the answer is a resounding NO!
>
>
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> There are just too many easy ways to blow-up a lithium ion battery. Can a
> local electronics repair shop do the job? Yes, but I would stand anywhere
> close by while it is done just in case they came up short on skills.
>
>
>
> Soldering a printed circuit board is double yikes unless you have the
> proper training and equipment. Then itʼs only challenging.
>
>
>
> *Phil Agur*                    *s/v** Wing 
> Tip*<http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm>
> Secretary,                    C270 LE #184
> IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790
> www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Port Huron Freecycle
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:39 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: soldered internal battery
>
>
>
> Hey Phil:
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>     Wouldn't you want to crimp this battery on too? Solder is
>
> BAD.....isn't the circuit board soldered.....YIKES!!!
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>
> Steve Bayless
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> #3491 "Liebchen"
>
> Port Huron, MI
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