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I use the aviator stand from keynamics.com. It is great for the desk or traveling as it fits on an airplane tray and doesn't slide around. It folds together into a flat 4 1/2 x 12 1/2 x 1/2 inch triangle that fits in the same pocket as my MacBook Pro. Ed Edmund W. Czerwinski, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 409-772-3287 (voice) 409-747-4745 (fax) 832-483-7614 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raji Edayathumangalam Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:49 PM Cc: ccp4 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: laptop for ccp4i *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** One of the Apple reps suggested using the iLAP stand with the sizzling hot Macbook Pro. One can supposedly get it from the Apple store. Checked out a similar product for a bit at the store - I liked the incline on the keyboard. Looks like the incline might give the wrist some rest and help delay onset of Carpal Tunnel. Disclaimer: Read this email and buy the product absolutely at your own risk. I have no association with the iLAP manufacturer or Apple. Raji D. Eric Dollins wrote: > *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** > *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** > > > One note on MacBook Pros....Although admittingly not designed for > number crunching, I've been refining structures on my new core 2 duo > MacBook Pro (again, thanks to Bill Scott and others...). If running > multiple jobs, my machine was running very hot (>80C). However, I > installed 2 things which seems to help: > 1. Temperature monitor: > http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html > 2. Addin fan contol > http://www.lobotomo.com/products/FanControl/ > The added items with the new fan controller and the monitor (which > shows the temp. at 11 different sensors), the temp. never gets above > ~65-70. I've heard extended periods above 70 is getting dangerous for > your CPU lifetime. So running without those extras seems like asking > for trouble. > Also, I didn't want to buy a fancy stand (nor do I want to carry one > around), so I put my laptop up on modelling dice (~2-3cm) and that > seems to help cool things down a bit by getting some air flow. > Eric > > > On 11/30/06, Jeff Speir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** >> *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** >> >> >> It was disappointing to hear of Bill's MacBook problem after all the >> work he has done for getting our tools to run on OSX, he deserves >> better! But I have to second Warren's recommendation for the Apple >> MacBook Pro. Our labs (Johnson and Schneemann at Scripps) have 3, >> and they are working very well. They are quite fast - preliminary >> benchmarks show they are competitive with G5 workstations (number >> crunching tests), and Coot, PyMol, Chimera run smoothly. No problems >> so far (probably revision B models?). >> >> I highly recommend extended warranties (at reasonable cost) for >> notebooks. They are always packed with advanced technology in small >> hots spaces that get jostled around, which invites trouble. The 3 >> year AppleCare for the MacBook lines is reasonable at the academic >> price. >> >> Apple's computers have been good for us (together our labs have 30+), >> but with this many machines we of course have had assorted problems. >> I would expect this from any computer manufacturer, not all of their >> products are going to be perfect. A couple years ago we had one of >> the legendary PowerBook G4's arrive for Jack Johnson. After >> gathering all the disks, cables, and computers, Jack and I sat down >> and powered it on to configure it and transfer data from his old >> machine. It made a few strange noises for about 10 seconds and then >> shut itself off. It wouldn't turn on again. We were pretty bent to >> say the least. Must have been revision A! Apple replaced it >> overnight without questions. One area where I think Apple excels is >> their service - they have fixed everything quickly, even if it took a >> couple phone calls to AppleCare to convince them. >> >> Just thought I'd put our two labs worth of experience out there for >> comparison. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> On Nov 30, 2006, at 8:22 AM, William Scott wrote: >> >> > *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** >> > *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** >> > >> > >> > Also it is good to check the repair statistics, in Consumer >> > Reports, for >> > example. Dell, Compac, and Apple typically get the best ratings. >> > Here is >> > something more up to date on the Apple line: >> > http://macintouch.com/reliability/macbooks.html >> > >> > >> > >> > Andreas Forster wrote: >> >> The good thing with a PC notebook is that you get a usable >> >> touchpad and an >> >> ALT key that lets you access menus without taking your hands off the >> >> keyboard, the lack of both of which drives me up the wall every >> >> time I sit >> >> in front of a Mac portable. >> >> >> >> How to decide on a notebook? Sit in front of those you find >> >> interesting >> >> (all with dedicated graphics, obviously) and pick the one whose >> >> keyboard >> >> and >> >> screen you like the most. The differences on the outside are >> >> bigger than >> >> those on the inside. >> >> >> >> Andreas >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/30/06, William Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** >> >>> *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Either a PC laptop or Apple would be fine. I just bought a new >> >>> MacBook >> >>> and after the salesman assured me it was the latest and greatest, >> >>> it was >> >>> obsolete 4 days later, has had serious battery problems, random >> >>> shutdowns, >> >>> and so forth. Meanwhile the new version allegedly corrected >> >>> this. But >> >>> this has put me in a pretty foul mood with respect to Apple >> >>> recently, so >> >>> I >> >>> am going to recommend any good cheap PC laptop and install a good >> >>> free >> >>> Linux distribution that is pleasant to use and maintain, like Ubuntu >> >>> Linux. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, shivesh kumar wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Dear all, >> >>>> For installing CCP4i and CNS and other graphics program which >> >>>> laptop I >> >>>> should buy.Whether it should be of linux operating system of any >> >>>> other.Howabout HP >> >>>> pavillion.Any suggestion is welcome. >> >>>> Thanx in advance. >> >>>> S >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > -- Raji Edayathumangalam Postdoctoral Fellow The Rockefeller University Box 224. 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021
