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I do not see how an atom of occupancy 0 would alter the R-factor of your structure, and I am sure that all refinement programs take that into proper account - I assume the occupancy is just a weighting factor, so the atom does not contribute to the R-factor calculation.

And how many non-crystallographers do you know that check the PDB-file,
even by colouring it by B-factor? And how many of them do you think would interprete the colour scheme correctly?

In my opinion depositing a PDB-file offers a service to a wide community of researchers and one should make sure that the data it represents are used as fool-proof as possible (no, I am not calling non-crystallographers fools). Looking at a residue with missing atoms at least is something striking.

Tim

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Flip Hoedemaeker wrote:

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Hmm, I'd like to stay as close as possible to the biological "truth"... In
this case, you know that the lysine side chain atoms are there but you just
can't see them! I always leave these atoms in, in a preferred rotamer (with
1.0 occupancy!) and let the B-values refine to >100. These high B-values
clearly indicate the issue at hand, and you can colour the model
accordingly.

Obviously, for missing loops or ends the situation is a bit different, as
you might have lossed them due to proteolysis, and it is impossible to model
them in without data.

I think putting atoms in with 0 occupancy only confuses users, and you
artificiallly lower the R values of the structure.

Flip

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I really have no view providing that if you include the whole side chain
you must set the atom occupancy to 0.00 forthe invisible atoms..

Eleanor

Nicholas Noinaj wrote:

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Hi,

i would like to get opinions on whether or not one removes side-chain atoms
where there is no density.  for example, if one can only observe density up
to the beta-carbon for lysine (say at > 0.5 sigma), does one leave the
lysine side chain intact, knowing it must be disordered, or does one
terminate at the beta-carbon, making the coordinates reflect what is
actually observed in the density.

It seems both approaches are published and people seem to have conflicting
opinions on the topic.  It would be nice to come to some concensus, possibly
clear up the issue for us newbies.

Thanks in advance for all feedback!



Cheers,
NIck




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