Dear Thomas,

maybe you can try to overlay your drop with LV CryoOil from Jena Bioscience. Then the evaporation of the solvent is slowed down and the crystals are directly cryoprotected when you move the crystals through the oil. We had quite good results when we cryoprotected crystals in this oil.

Best wishes,
Yvonne


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Am 15.08.2018 um 08:05 schrieb Kajander, Tommi A:
Yes sorry, i meant paratone-N also.

Tommi

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Dear Thomas,

Alternatively you can try shooting on crystals in the drop, in situ. So fishing, no cryo. But potentially high radiation damage. Can be considered if you have enough crystals, and if your crystallization plate makes it possible.

Regards

JL

On 14/08/2018 20:58, Thomas Krey wrote:
Dear crystallization experts,

We have 3D protein crystals grown from a microseed matrix screening vapor diffusion experiment in either

15% (v/v) Reagent alcohol
HEPES Na pH 7.5
0.2 M MgCl2

or in

27% Isopropanol
0.18 M MgCl2
90 mM HEPES Na pH 7.5
10% Glycerol

Upon opening the corresponding wells these crystals move quite a bit – presumably due to the volatility of the alcohols. Does anyone have a good suggestion to stabilize the swirling movements? Does anyone have experience, whether these conditions alone can serve as cryo-protectant (i.e., do we really have to fish, move into cryo solution and fish again)?
Any suggestion or input would be highly welcome.

Thank you very much in advance.

Thomas


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