What about M-DISC DVDs and BluRays?  Archival grade, not susceptible to 
magnetism or EMP.  I think BluRay discs are made of a harder material than DVDs 
and don’t scratch as easily.


> On Jan 16, 2023, at 8:11 PM, Chris via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
> Been there. Seen it. It seems paper or tyvek is the way to store these things.
> 
> But the question is in 2023 why are you still committing data to optical 
> media? I dumped all my cds and dvds on to magnetic storage years ago. I got 
> burned waiting as long as I did even.
> 
> Some of the old spinning cd cleaner/restorers used an abrasive slurry. The 
> last one I bought (Onn) only has a cleaner afaik. You'll want to clean the 
> disks thoroughly. Then try a "cleaning" solution that's more aggressive. My 
> old cd cleaner would leave circular scratches on the disk. But it was 
> readable after that. In 1 instance (then I lost it). Such an approach should 
> be a last resort though.
> 
> Don't just rely on Mac/Windoze facilities for reading stubborn disks. There 
> are programs that work better if you search.  


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