On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:29 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Apple didn't "steal" anything because > ..... > I can't believe people still don't have a solid grasp of these things after > 40 years of both journalism and academia covering them in rather exhaustive > detail. > People likely don't have the solid grasp you feel they should because it's probably not that important to them. Hence some of the myth's live on. No-one mentioned "steal"ing in this thread AFAICT until now so I assume you're talking in the general population sense rather than members of this list. Also it's pretty subjective what "steal" means. Hertzfeld when asked took a very literal view "literally no code was taken, I mean not a single line of code". By that definition I doubt Microsoft took a line of code from Apple either but it didn't stop Apple suing them for copyright infringement :-) I think Atkinson is on record as saying the Goldberg demo was just a confirmation (for him) that a more graphical approach was the way forward. I believe until then the Lisa project had been text based. I would not be the slightest bit surprised to find out that Atkinson had already seen demo's of Smalltalk 76 or 78. I get the impression PARC people smuggled outsiders in late at night to see what they were working on.. It really was all about getting Jobs on the same page.
