I had really problems with his morals.  I personally think that he denigrated
the office of president.  He was a great speaker, hugely charismatic,
brilliant and a complete degenerate.  His zipper was his fatal flaw.  We know
what Reagan did, Nixon did, JFK, Johnston, ... What did Clinton do besides
Monica?  I honestly can't remember a single achievement.  Healthcare didn't go
anywhere.  Enron happened on his watch.  He should get credit for good fiscal
discipline.  What else?

Andy
  -----Original Message-----
  From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:43 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate

  based on your previous statements I am guessing that you don't think
  Clinton was a good president. So I guess you can use him to make my
  point, if it makes ya happy :) He *was* a great speaker.

  But there is more to being president than that.

  Dana

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:24:10 -0500
  Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate
  To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  Clinton?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:17 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: Re: Kerry's record in Senate

    That may be an attitude that is imposed by circumstances. And exciting
    and charismatic leaders may not always be the answer. Look at Hitler.

    Dana

    On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 18:58:11 -0400, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  wrote:
    > Do you not see how sad that it?
    >
    > Your only reason for voting for Kerry is because he isn't Bush, your
only
    > response about these questions is that it can't be worse than it is now.
    >
    > If you are basing your vote on that idea, then democracy is lost, the
idea
    > that you care more for voting this guy out than voting somebody else in.
    >
    >   _____
    >
    > From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:01 PM
    > To: CF-Community
    > Subject: RE: Kerry's record in Senate
    >
    >
    >
    > > What is the cost in lives if Kerry turns about to be an ineffectual
    > leader?
    >
    > No more than now that's for sure.
    >
    >   _____________________________________
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