Wouldn't this be a great study for the marketing dept at Adobe to take 
up?  I mean, how many times have we had this discussion, and it always 
seems to boil down to opinions.  You're right, it would be nice to pull 
out some facts from studies that are *real*, not based on opinion.

Are you listening Adobe?  :)

Adam Haskell wrote:
> Heh unless someone wants a CF developer that has a loose understanding of OO
> and Java (read I have supported Java apps, and enhanced them, never written
> one from ground up) and is willing to help me rellocate from Ohio then I am
> guessing leaving is not an option, though from my understanding Walmart is a
> great employer (loads silver bullets for zombie thread).
> 
> Fact is I don't mind java, hell I enjoy programing in it and learning more
> about it, I just think its a bad business decision to move away from
> Coldfusion. I know CF is quicker to develope in, and has a lower learning
> curve, ect. Problem is most of these are not quantifiable and verifiable
> from third parties. Convincing someone they should invest in CF while not
> presenting solid numbers is sometimes hard. Ecspecially for a company that
> for the last decade has pretty much taken IBMs or some other Technology
> company's word as the gospel. Its like a kid that is just starting to think
> on its own. The company is going to make bad decisions, I just don't want
> this to be one of them. As pationate as I am about CF if java was the right
> single language solution I would say go for it.
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 1/24/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>dont understand?
>>need more info.
>>and if you cannot find the cf ammo you need from a couple google's or
>>some blog roll, then, maybe it is time to say good bye adam :)
>>
>>are your higher ups trying to say goodbye to cf, and you are tasked with
>>proving
>>its worth?
>>
>>tw
>>
>>On 1/24/06, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes I know we have all heard this before. Java vs Coldfusion. Its a
>>
>>stupid
>>
>>>argument I have avoided it for years. Coldfuion compliments Java; It
>>
>>provide
>>
>>>a wealth of benifits. Well some groups don't see the beifits and the
>>
>>push
>>
>>>out of coldfusion has begun, just as soon as you start to enjoy
>>
>>everything
>>
>>>and think the light is at the end of the tunnnel. Now we are faced with
>>>providing "quantifiable" benifits of Coldfusion. Any help to articles,
>>
>>blog
>>
>>>entries, published study results would be awesome. Many thanks to anyone
>>
>>and
>>
>>>everyone.
>>>
>>>Soon to be ex-CFer,
>>>
>>>Adam Haskell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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