Nice try, Beth. Nice try to put words in my mouth.

H.


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from: "BethF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 08:27:53 -0900

>Evolution is a theory and creationism is a fact, with evidence to prove it.
>
>Can you show me this evidence?
>
>--Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
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>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:36 AM
>Subject: RE: Religious argument in the US... Why?
>
>
>> In response to Larry and Jon:
>>
>> The reason it is the Law of Gravity is that gravity is real and proven.
>The
>> reason that is the Law of Thermodynamics is that it is real and it is
>> proven. The reason it is the Theory of Evolution is that it is a theory
>and
>> unproven.
>>
>> And it's unproven for a reason. You can't prove the improvable. You
>> certainly can't prove a theory that has ample holes in it. And the biggest
>> hole is, what is the first cause? Scientists can't answer that question.
>>
>> And I believe and am convinced beyond doubt through all possible reasoning
>> and human understanding, there is only but one answer as to the first
>cause,
>> and that is God. It was not until I came to understand, not just believe,
>> that there was only one logical answer, that I was able to become a
>> Christian. My faith is not based on some pie in the sky, emotional
>response
>> to some event. My faith is logical, well reasoned and backed by scientific
>> and historical evidence. Creation is not a myth. It is an answer.
>>
>> So, are you going to call me ignorant and narrow minded?
>>
>> When you go around spouting those kinds of insults, you are going to get
>> people riled. The smartest, best educated people I am personally friends
>> with are all Christians. That's not to say there are not terribly bright
>> people who are atheists and Jews and Muslims and what not. I'm saying
>being
>> smart and well educated and being a Christian are not mutually exclusive
>> states of being.
>>
>> Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell are not exactly far representatives of
>> Christianity or even fundamentalism (I'm not a fundamentalist, btw, I'm
>> evangelical -- a Nazarene, as for sect). They are money grubbers and media
>> mongers. They do not represent nor speak for the majority of Christians
>nor
>> even a majority of fundamentalists. They just have the loudest voices. The
>> loudest voices always get the majority of the press coverage. You never
>hear
>> from the majority of Christians in this country because they are largely
>> quiet people.
>>
>> As for what should be taught, creationism, as broadly defined, need not be
>> taught as a Christian theory or a Hindu theory, but just honestly. We do
>not
>> know how the universe began. Some people believe it started spontaneously.
>> Some people believe that a creator, a being greater than ourselves is
>> responsible. Some people believe this creator is God. Mathematically, the
>> odds of spontaneity are almost to mind boggling to even contemplate, which
>> is why even some of our brightest scientists believe in a creator.
>>
>> Evolution is a theory folks. Only a theory. And it should be taught as a
>> theory. To teach it otherwise is intellectually dishonest and to teach our
>> children to embrace ignorance about their universe.
>>
>> H.
>>
>> 
>
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