Larry, You might have, but I can tell you this. I sat there and saw this manual as you call it, with the test that comes along with it.
And here is the clincher. The book is typically considered the âbibleâ for any professional who makes psychiatric diagnoses in the United States and many other countries. Now with the test that has been designed in conjunction with this manual (DSM-IV) or the 2002 version DSM-IVTR. I wont get into a debate on this, I have a cousin who has been autistic for 10 years and we have been to all the support and information nights by professionals in this area. And I never said they where linked, I said they all belong to the same spectrum and it is even documented by the person who discivered Asperger in the early 1900's not sure the exact year but I think from memory it was around 1934:-) Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 22 December 2006 12:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Education (Was: Pet Peeve) >Actually Larry you are wrong again. > >The manual as you put it is for specially trained people in that area, and >it is up to those people from the results of the test, to diagnose and >identify what is wrong with someone. I know, I took 2 semesters on the DSM-IV during grad school. I am an ABD, (all but dissertation). I told my dissertation committee to take a flying f**k and walked during my defense. FWIW my dissertation was on attentional processing, vigilance and hypnotic susceptibility. So I think I know a little bit on attention and cognition. > >Now as I said before, I am no expert but I am very closely related to >someone who had this test, and has ADHD (mild case) but has been diagnosed >with aspergers. Now the report is very detailed based on this manual and yes >I have read the report, and it outlines the problems with the person in >great detail. Try this link: http://apt.rcpsych.org/cgi/reprint/7/4/310 Diagnosis and differential diagnosis of Asperger syndrome -- Michael Fitzgerald & Aiden Corvin -- Advances in Psychiatric Treatment (2001), vol. 7, pp. 310ââ¬â318 Its an interesting review of the available research on Asperger's, and possible links to ADHD, OCD and other conditions. Here's the critical part: -- Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) presents with inattention, distractability, fidgetiness, impulsivity and hyperactivity. Persons with HFA spectrum disorders may be hyperactive, impulsive, have a short attention span and share similar executive function deficits as patients with ADHD. The conditions differ in that ADHD lacks the classic impairment in reciprocal social interaction, narrow interests, repetitive routines and non-verbal problems of Asperger syndrome. In accordance with a hierarchical rule in DSMââ¬âIV, a person meeting the criteria for a pervasive developmental disorder cannot be diagnosed as having ADHD. This is not the case in ICDââ¬â10, in which a dual diagnosis of Asperger syndrome and ADHD is possible. Gillberg & Ehlers (1998) point out that children who meet criteria for ADHD may also meet the full criteria for Asperger syndrome. They mention one study, in which 21% of children with severe ADHD met the full criteria for Asperger syndrome and 36% showed autistic traits. A developmental history is usually sufficient to separate ADHD from Asperger syndrome, but ADHD can present as soon as the child can walk, and it is important to consider that impulsivity can interfere with social relationships, making children appear unempathic. Indeed, children with ADHD can be so easily distracted that they appear to be in a world of their own and therefore seem socially disconnected. It is not surprising, therefore, that children with Asperger syndrome are not uncommonly misdiagnosed as having ADHD, since it is often the attention and hyperactive problems that parents first observe. -- So in other words, while there are some similarities the neurological basis for the problems are different (see my previous posting), and the eitiology is different, with ADHD manifesting considerably earlier than Asperger's Syndrom. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:223060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5