I was "nice" for a while and put a mug with chocolates on my desk. Now I'm
getting complaints when it's empty. And when it's not empty I have trouble
not eating them. <sigh>


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:22 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Come see the violence inherent in the system!
> 
> 
> Yes. I'm not that bad but I know people who are. Actually, 
> during the holidays the secretary over here would come over 
> like my pusher ans say "pst. Michael, I've got ya godiva". I 
> had enough to put me off chocolate for almost a month.
> 
> At 12:14 PM 2/25/02, you wrote:
> >Have you seen the t-shirt in the form of a ransom note 
> (letters/words cut
> >from magazines) that says "Hand over the chocolate and no 
> one gets hurt"?
> >
> >(Just kidding)
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:07 AM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: RE: Come see the violence inherent in the system!
> >> 
> >> 
> >> And how many people have you beaten up for a candy bar? There 
> >> are degrees of low impulse control. Personal control such as 
> >> for a diet is usually lower than public control such as just 
> >> grabbing something you want. I'm great with the public 
> >> (wouldn't even use some milk from the work fridge because its 
> >> not mine) but my private control is a bit shaky. I've sworn 
> >> off chocolate a number of times to no effect. I've sworn on 
> >> vegetables just as often but my diet still looks like that of 
> >> a lion (meat, meat and more meat). 
> >> A child slowly learns both the personal and public impulse 
> >> control. Some faster and some slower. Hinda still sometimes 
> >> grabs toys from Moshe but would never do so to a different 
> >> child. That shows impulse control (brothers don't count as 
> >> much :)  ). Her internal schema says that strangers and 
> >> friends are out of bounds for grabbing, brothers should be 
> >> out of bounds as well but sometime....
> >> For a child to attack someone in public really shows a 
> >> breakdown in their control. 
> >> 
> >> At 11:41 AM 2/25/02, you wrote:
> >> >Interestingly, it was Disney movies that helped our son 
> >> grasp the concept of
> >> >reality vs. pretend. We pointed out to him that there was a 
> >> real boy named
> >> >Tommy Kirk who pretended to be other children in a number 
> of movies.
> >> >
> >> >And ya HAD to mention candy bars 
> >> >I STILL have "low impulse control" in some areas <sigh>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:40 AM
> >>> To: CF-Community
> >>> Subject: RE: Come see the violence inherent in the system!
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> True. :)
> >>> While I am a proud papa and love my kids, I'm not sure that 
> >>> their taking responsibility for their actions and knowing the 
> >>> difference between real and pretend is all nurture (or 
> >>> genetics for that matter). Moshe will come home with a story 
> >>> and will tell it to us and then say that its all pretend and 
> >>> didn't happen. He knows the difference. Hinda will sometimes 
> >>> get upset with herself when she doesn't act right. She knows 
> >>> that she's not doing the right thing but at the time her 
> >>> impulses are more powerful than her common sense (like when 
> >>> she's overtired). That may be the issue here. Rather than the 
> >>> child not knowing the difference between real and pretend, he 
> >>> may have low impulse control. This is the 'voice in our head' 
> >>> that stops us from just grabbing a candy bar when we want it 
> >>> or beating on 
> >>> someone when they upset us. Super ego, if you want.
> >
> >
> 
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